Roll tide!!!!

[dougo83]

ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE. 2010 BCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!

Just had to throw that out there. Here I am, stuck in Austin,TX, hearing all the fanfare about t.u. all the time. So good to see them put in their place...2nd . Garret Gilbert played well in the absence of poor wittle colt, but it just wasn't enough.

 

[Balislinger]

"Put in their place?" Holy cow, we played you all game with a true freshman at quarterback that hasn't played at the college level and we still gave you a game. I can only imagine what the game would have been like with our 4-year veteran, Heisman candidate at the helm. Probably 60 minutes of what the first 5 were like. Bama has a good team, but you guys were headed for slaughter before the college gods smiled upon you. Oh yeah, that, and the refs were very biased toward Bama all game.

 

[dougo83]

"Put in their place?" Holy cow, we played you all game with a true freshman at quarterback that hasn't played at the college level and we still gave you a game. I can only imagine what the game would have been like with our 4-year veteran, Heisman candidate at the helm. Probably 60 minutes of what the first 5 were like. Bama has a good team, but you guys were headed for slaughter before the college gods smiled upon you. Oh yeah, that, and the refs were very biased toward Bama all game.

"WE?" "WE" who? (pet peeve). Look, t.u. put up a good fight, but thewy are still the #2 team. They BARELY beat out #22 Oklahoma and #5 Nebraska. OTOH, Bama DEMOLISHED #1 Florida. I doubt poor wittle colt could have made much of a difference. The defense was making some terrible mistakes, 30+ yards of penalties on ONE DRIVE.

I will give Gilbert credit, though. He stepped up and filled a big hole. He connected with Shipley when it mattered, for the most part, and helped t.u. stay in it.

 

[Balislinger]

Our defense played great! the 30 penalty yards on that series you can attribute to the refs, who failed to call clear pass interference on you guys twice in one drive, then throw the flag on us when there was mutual contact

And that team that barely beat OK and NB almost beat you with a backup quarterback! Credit to Bama, you guys deserved it, but with a healthy McCoy it would have been lights out.

 

[dougo83]

I dunno about the details of the penalties, I didn't 'see' the game. I am at work, so I heard it in my truck. KVET is the t.u. radio station, so I ignored the commentary on account of bias. But it sounded like a dang good game.

 

[t1mpani]

It was a great game---all the more so because it looked like it was going to be a blowout due to early events.

Oh, and as far as the "poor wittle colt" comments above...

Uhuh. The winningest QB in NCAA history wouldn't have made a difference versus a true freshman in the same position. A true freshman that had, up to that point, only played one quarter the entire season. Yeah. This is the kind of delusional thinking that is, after all, required in order to believe that Alabama is the best college team this year.

 

[dougo83]

It was a great game---all the more so because it looked like it was going to be a blowout due to early events.

Oh, and as far as the "poor wittle colt" comments above...

Uhuh. The winningest QB in NCAA history wouldn't have made a difference versus a true freshman in the same position. Yeah. This is the kind of delusional thinking that is, after all, required in order to believe that Alabama is the best college team this year.

I never said colt wouldn't have made a difference. I said that the team that barely squeaked out against #22 OK and #5 NB would not have beat the team who demolished #1 FL, regardless of the quarterback.

Oh, "delusional thinking," indeed:

http://www.ncaafootball.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=34&url_article_id=18964&change_well_id=2

 

[t1mpani]

I never said colt wouldn't have made a difference.

"WE?" "WE" who? (pet peeve).I doubt poor wittle colt could have made much of a difference.

Claiming that you didn't say something that you said on a public forum and then not even going back and removing the evidence. The key to an impotent comeback.

 

[dougo83]

Claiming that you didn't say something that you said on a public forum and then not even going back and removing the evidence. The key to an impotent comeback.

You stated that I said colt wouldn't have made a difference. My statement, as quoted in its entirety, clearly shows that I said he wouldn't have made much of a difference, given their performance in other games.

Not making a difference and not making much of a difference are different things, btw. Perhaps when you take the beer goggles off that will be more evident.

 

[CarpScot]

dougo,

Do you follow college football closely?

 

[dougo83]

dougo,

Do you follow college football closely?

Why??

 

[Guyon]

Shoulda', coulda', woulda' don't cut it.

Colt got knocked out by the Bama defense. Plain and simple. You have to be tough and physical to go up against a tough, physical defense. If Colt goes pro, he better get used to those kinds of hits.

We will never know how Colt would have fared against the Bama defense. He could not stay in the game. However, we do know that Alabama's defense played quite well against another tougher, storied quarterback this season. I refer, of course, to Superman himself.

As for the UT defense, in the second and fourth quarters, UT did not stop Mark Ingram. Ingram did not play the third quarter due to cramps. UT did make some good adjustments in the fourth, but not enough.

 

[t1mpani]

You stated that I said colt wouldn't have made a difference. My statement, as quoted in its entirety, clearly shows that I said he wouldn't have made much of a difference, given their performance in other games.

Not making a difference and not making much of a difference are different things, btw. Perhaps when you take the beer goggles off that will be more evident.

I think you completely forgot what you said and are arguing semantics in an effort to save face. Nice try though.

As to woulda shoulda coulda...if your arm doesn't work, you can't play, I don't give a damn who you are. It's not a matter of toughness--a pinched nerve is a pinched nerve. Pro players have them too, and it's not anything you can "get used to."

I don't argue---Alabama won the game. I just hope, when their fans are not blustering in public and actually have a couple honest moments of reflection, they realize that they "defeated" a team that was entirely crippled and that still produced more total yards than they did, had only one fewer first down, held them to a 1 in 9 completion ratio on 3rd downs, and, but for a fumble at the very end (again true freshman QB) had knocked their first half lead down with 15 unanswered points.

I'm sorry, I just have an image of the winning fighter of a boxing match...
"Champ, do you feel that the fact that your opponent had his eyes gouged out in the first round might have contributed to your victory?"
"HEEEELL NO! I mean, maybe a little bit but clearly I brought it and he didn't! Yeah, baby!!! WOOOO!!!
"It just seemed strange that he actually seemed to be winning for awhile..."
"SHUT UP!!! "

Ah well, I didn't have a dog in it---Boise would have beat both of 'em, much as I hate to admit it.

 

[hoopster]

I'm not an Alabama fan but I would have picked them over Texas every time whether Colt got hurt or not. The fact is Alabama's defense got to him. You can't win games if you don't protect the QB. Another thing to consider is how easily Alabama ran the ball against Texas' defense.

Did anyone notice that Florida finished 5th behind Cincy and TCU even though they destroyed Cincy and their only loss was to #1 Alabama. That's messed up IMO.

 

[Shann]

I didn't really care who won, but was looking forward to a great championship game. When McCoy went down in their first offensive series, it was completely deflating. I watched a little more but then changed channels. I guess I missed a pretty good second half.

I thought Lou Holz was kind of harsh on that freshman QB. True, he didn't play well, but I don't know where Holz got off saying that he was mentally and physically unprepared to play.

 

[Guyon]

I just hope, when their fans are not blustering in public and actually have a couple honest moments of reflection, they realize that they "defeated" a team that was entirely crippled and that still produced more total yards than they did, had only one fewer first down, held them to a 1 in 9 completion ratio on 3rd downs, and, but for a fumble at the very end (again true freshman QB) had knocked their first half lead down with 15 unanswered points.

I'm sorry, I just have an image of the winning fighter of a boxing match...
"Champ, do you feel that the fact that your opponent had his eyes gouged out in the first round might have contributed to your victory?"

Another way to look at it is that Alabama's defense crippled the Texas offense on the first series. The boxing analogy just doesn't hold. Eye gouging is cheap and against the rules. On the other hand, the Texas offensive line did not protect its QB, and Alabama landed a perfectly legal hit on him.

IFs kind of tickle me. We could do IFs all day long... What IF Mark Ingram had not suffered intense cramps in the 3rd quarter? IF Alabama altered its game plan (both offensively and defensively) because of the Texas QB situation, what would have happened IF it had not done so? What IF Colt McCoy had played and simply had a bad game?

Honestly, I would have preferred that Alabama win against a healthy Colt McCoy. The win over Tebow and Florida will have to do though.

 

[kdstrick]

Another way to look at it is that Alabama's defense crippled the Texas offense on the first series. The boxing analogy just doesn't hold. Eye gouging is cheap and against the rules. On the other hand, the Texas offensive line did not protect its QB, and Alabama landed a perfectly legal hit on him.

Just to clarify on the 'hit' the McCoy took.

The play was an option play. The quarterback can either run or pitch the ball to another runner. When played properly by the defense, the QB always gets hit on this play.

Thus, it really has nothing to do with Texas' "protection" of the QB.

Just setting the record strait... Carry on....

EDIT TO ADD:

DOUGO83... Don't you think the T.U. thing is a bit juvenile? Silly aggies. aTm has the world's biggest case of penis envy.

 

[Guyon]

Just to clarify on the 'hit' the McCoy took.

The play was an option play. The quarterback can either run or pitch the ball to another runner. When played properly by the defense, the QB always gets hit on this play.

Thus, it really has nothing to do with Texas' "protection" of the QB.

Just setting the record strait... Carry on....

Watch it again. I have.
The way I saw it, the offensive line didn't open up much of a hole for anyone to run through.
And option or not, McCoy got hit in the backfield by a man who came in untouched.

 

[kdstrick]

^ It was a designed play, but (you are correct) the O-line didn't open up any holes. Colt kept the ball, ran up the back of one if his linemen and took the shot. No doubt, the Bama D was all over it. Frankly, I thought it was a silly play to run the option against such a fast D (and put the QB at risk). McCoy isn't built like Tebow.

 

[Guyon]

Did anyone notice that Florida finished 5th behind Cincy and TCU even though they destroyed Cincy and their only loss was to #1 Alabama. That's messed up IMO.

Are you looking at an old poll maybe?

In both the AP and the USA Today, I see Alabama, Texas, Florida as 1,2,3.

Edit: Oops, nevermind. I hadn't looked at the BCS rankings yet. TCU ahead of Florida is nuts.