RollingStoned isn't a very honerable seller

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Hvactech

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Rolling Stoned posted a thread Monday about selling several Microtechs. I was one of the first to respond. He didn't get back in touch with anyone until this evening (Wednesday). Said I was first in line for the two star wars knives that I had dibs on from Monday. He acknowledges this and I tell him a minute later to send me payment info and I will pay immediately. A few hours go by and I tried to get his attention on the thread, instant message, and email. He says that he didn't get any of these and sold all three to the guy that responded on Monday an hour after I did. Not exactly a respectable way to do business. Screenshot_20220615-234137_Samsung Internet.jpgScreenshot_20220615-234201_Samsung Internet.jpgScreenshot_20220615-234214_Samsung Internet.jpgScreenshot_20220615-234229_Samsung Internet.jpgScreenshot_20220615-234239_Samsung Internet.jpgScreenshot_20220615-234316_Gmail.jpg
 
So he’s offering you the 3 knives you wanted (or at least comparable) at a discount and you’re still butthurt?🙄 Am I missing something, because that’s what it looks like to me.
 
No he's offering one and will "try to find the other". It's the point that the guy after me wanted all or none and he screwed me.
 
How did he screw you?
You never sent payment, so you aren't out anything except a little time.
Seller's are not obligated to sell to the first person that says they want something. Now, if you'd sent payment and he subsequently decided to sell to the other guy, I'd agree that it was a lousy thing to do.

The seller offered an explanation, apologized, and tried to come up with a resolution.
 
How did he screw you?
You never sent payment, so you aren't out anything except a little time.
Seller's are not obligated to sell to the first person that says they want something. Now, if you'd sent payment and he subsequently decided to sell to the other guy, I'd agree that it was a lousy thing to do.

The seller offered an explanation, apologized, and tried to come up with a resolution.


I have to agree with hhmoore
 
How did he screw you?
You never sent payment, so you aren't out anything except a little time.
Seller's are not obligated to sell to the first person that says they want something. Now, if you'd sent payment and he subsequently decided to sell to the other guy, I'd agree that it was a lousy thing to do.

The seller offered an explanation, apologized, and tried to come up with a resolution.

From what I see the OP said he wanted the two and Rollingstoned recieved a message from darthdad for more than his asking price. In turn he sold to darthdad. In the OPs defense I feel like this is basically an auction and if that is the case what is the use in even shopping Bladeforums.

Ebay and other auction sites is where that is done. I get you have the right to sell to whoever you want etc but the OP has the right to call you out on shady practices such as posting something and waiting three days to see who will offer the most and then selling to the highest bidder. That's an auction.

Bladeforums is a community and I feel like these practices are not acceptable. But, I'm not an authority on BF practices. It's one thing to make an honest mistake but a whole other thing to knowingly gouge. I'm not looking to get into some Flaming war so this will be all I say on the matter.
 
If the seller was actively seeking better offers, I'd agree - maybe he was b but I don't know that to be the case (perhaps I missed something?).
Theoretically, if one person says he'll buy two knive from my ad & another offers to buy three, I'm probably going to choose to sell all three...unless I've already accepted an offer. (Theoretically, because I only post one knife per ad, and all communication is private)
 
Doesn’t seem ideal but also doesn’t seem like something that’s worth going to the effort of a post slamming someone especially when he tried to make it right with you.
 
Here is the situation...

I listed these knives on Monday, as I have been busy at work since then and did not receive ANY email updates regarding the listing or notifying me of any inbound private messages, so, I did not take the extra step to actually go to bladeforums and view my listing. I even ended up selling a coveted Tachyon to cover am other obligation as I thought nobody wanted any of the knives I posted.

Yesterday afternoon I became aware of all the posts on my account and PM's.

While HVACTech at first claimed he wanted Knife C, a Dirac, he then also posted he wanted the red and blue.

Then other members posted interest in the Star Wars. In all the excitement and clutter of emails out of chronological order (a Gmail feature or glitch) I got a bit confused. After clearing up my confusion, I emailed everyone explaining their dibs order and my apologies for the late responses. HVACTech responded Very Promptly saying he would send payment over now, to which I responded my thanks online on the bladeforums listing. I then received an email from him explaining he had PayPal issues and asked if he could send payment by Zelle. I said absolutely and had no worries over his PayPal issues. I asked if he also still wanted the Dirac he claimed he wanted. After waiting approximately 30 minutes, I sent another follow up email explaining that I had other buyers interested and that I really was hoping to get paid ASAP so I didn't lose any backup buyers as I needed the funds by this morning. After waiting a little while longer, I remembered that I had another Red Sith to sell and thought that I also had a blue Jedi to sell as well, so I offered the next person to say Hat they wanted them for sure, Darth Dad. While he did post on my homepage that he would pay up to $1,000, I sent him an email saying that I would be happy with my asking price of $950. After checking my payment, he did send the $1,000, however, that was to include expedited shipping as I clearly told him I only wanted the $950.

After emailing Darth Dad, I finally receive an email from HVACTech saying that he only wanted the Two Star Wars knives and not the Dirac. I went to my safe to grab them and realized that my last Jedi Knight was my keeper from 2016, no more newer ones. As you can see in my private correspondence to him, I offered him an AMAZING deal on the Sith, over $100 below cost after shipping and tax as well as $25 off of the Dirac he claimed but backed out of as well as $25 off of my last Jedi Master if he were interested as well as $25 off of any future listings of mine in addition to my sincere apologies. Not to mention, I offered and planned/plan to find him another NIB Jedi Knight for the same price, which I think I already managed to track down, just awaiting a response. While I did not promise or offer to him, I would have likely sent him mine if I weren't able to find him another one in a reasonable amount of time (a few days).

Given that he responded right away saying payment coming now, then had a PayPal problem, but didn't respond for a while because he went back outside to work without explaining to me that he might not respond immediately, I thought he disappeared on me and also thought it didn't matter either way as I thought i Had another set of Sith and Jedi Knight for him. If he had simply said he needs a little time, I would have most happily waited as I have asked this of sellers on countless occasions and surely didn't wish to seem impatient, especially after not responding for days.

Although he added a second post say "actually the red and blue". He never edited or deleted his original post claiming the Dirac. I imagine that other potentially interested parties might have seen his claim and not expressed any potential interest, but obviously I have no idea for sure, yet did not give him any grief whatsoever for that and even offered him a further discount.

I gave him ample time to pay in a timely fashion and have seen several other members move on after the first person to claim doesn't respond in much less time. I even am the happy owner of several knives due to being the second person in that situation after the first person didn't respond in ten minutes. I also am doing everything possible to accommodate the situation even though I did not skip over him for more money as he keeps claiming. I have received better offers countless times after already accepting one offer and have NEVER once sold out a knife from under someone for more money, EVER!

Today, I am sending someone a 1997 Socom for FAR less than it's worth, just to honor my word when I priced it much lower than it's actual value.

I understand HVACTech's frustration, however, he/you is/are not acknowledging your part in this let alone my efforts to make this right, moreover are falsely accusing me of being greedy. All while I was ready to send you a NIB 2016 JK if I couldn't find you another new one. Occasionally things do not work out ideally and when that happens, I go above and beyond to rectify it, I am sorry HVACTech was not open to allowing me that opportunity...
 
Just to clarify, I didn't wait 3 days for a best offer. I would gladly have responded the very second the first posting came and did respond to the first offer to trade that I did receive on Monday. The offer for more money from Darth Dad came AFTER I responded to each member individually, but BEFORE I posted that HVACTech had first dibs. Before I emailed HVACTech with my PayPal address asking for payment, Before asking if he still wanted all three knives and BEFORE emailing Darth Dad that he was second and that I wanted to give HVACTech time to respond before moving on... I definitely needed the money days ago and ended up selling a keeper that I really didn't want to sell believing nobody wanted any of these.
 
It's also interesting how he left out his correspondence to me apologizing for his "Late response" as well as for it being "100° outside and his being an AC Repair Person" right after promising to send payment now... And I am the dishonest person here?
 

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Here is my correspondence to Darth Dad CLEARLY giving HVACTech first dibs as well as saying I only wanted my original asking price... ZERO DISHONESTY HERE!
 

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I guess let that be a lesson: If you’re going to call someone out in GBU, take a deep breath.. count to 10… and ask yourself if it’s really as bad as you think it is, or are you just really emotional at the moment.
 
It's a real simple case of missing an opportunity and making a bigger deal out of it than necessary.

Due to technical issues, I didn't respond for several days.
When I did, I offered HVACTech first dibs
I sent him my PayPal information.
He responded claiming he had PayPal issues and asked to pay by Zelle
Having had countless PayPal issues myself, I completely understood and said no problem.
I asked if he still wanted the Dirac that he previously claimed as his email only mentioned the two Ultratechs as I needed to send him a Zelle invoice for the exact total due
After not receiving a response after a short while, I sent a follow-up email
After not receiving a response to that, and realizing (mistakenly) that I had another of both knives and could accommodate both buyers, I moved on to the next member
After realizing I only had a sith and finally hearing back from HVACTech with an apology for the late response, I offered up to $100 in discounts and promised to try to find him another Jedi Knight. While I am working on buying him one for the same price offered, had he accepted my offers, this one here, currently in stock, would end up $25 CHEAPER!

 
If I were being uptight or looking for an excuse to charge more from someone else, I could have simply told him that if he didn't take all three knives that he claimed I would need to sell to someone who was willing to buy three knives, but I DIDN'T, I accepted that he changed his mind without properly clarifying and appreciated his business as it was. I sent him the PayPal invoice in good faith and attempted, twice to send him a Zelle invoice awaiting a clear response on the Dirac. Even though HE ADMITTED that he responded late, I still took responsibility and was willing to lose an additional $100 to accommodate his tardiness. I believe that is quite honorable, far from dishonorable and I doubt many other members here would offer a $100 discount to make up for a potential buyer not responding quick enough.
 
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