Ruger 10/22 Rifle

I've got the Savage MkII coaldigger, with the synthetic stock and irons. It's a really super rifle, very accurate and very light. I really enjoy it. I'd like to find some flush fit 5 round mags, though. The 10 round mag sticks out right at the point of balance.
 
brians said:
The Ruger is not accurate out of the box,
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While mine may be an exception, the one I got from bimart (plain jane edition for something like $150) was quite accurate OOTB.
Since I'm a bit of a computer geek and had access to tons of old keyboards, we had a game where we used to "type" words out on a keyboard from about 100 yards (each person has 30 seconds to shoot a letter out, then passes rifle on. Longest word wins, if you can't finish a word because you screw up or the other guy "took your letter", you lose) Fun game, and you need to think a fair bit.

Trigger OOTB is heavy, you'll probably want to mod it to fix that, but I guess that's a good thing for the parents. That said, I never modified my trigger, it isn't as nice as the one on some of my other guns, but it is acceptable.

The plastic banana mags never fed worth a damn for me. Just stick with the 10 shot radial mags from (buy them off ebay or at gun shows for cheap)

Oh, and get a bolt buffer. They're cheap ($8?) and quiet down the action a surprising amount. As you shoot a lot, the metal pin that acts as the "rear recoil movement limiter" tends to enlarge its hole in the receiver block a tiny bit, and the pin can fall out and get lost fairly easily. The buffer ideally cushions that impact and prevents that damage from occurring.
 
FWIW, Pennsylvania is the only state I know of with that idiotic law that you can't hunt with a semiautomatic. I guess they are just too close to New Jersey and some of the stupidity rubbed off.
 
[/QUOTE]we had a game where we used to "type" words out on a keyboard from about 100 yards (each person has 30 seconds to shoot a letter out, then passes rifle on.[/QUOTE]
Dude is your 10/22 a stock rifle(pencil bbl & iron sights):confused:
I'm not tryig to start a flame here but the keys on a keyboard are about dime size & a stock 10/22 just aint going to do it unless you have some mods ( good trigger & hvy bbl & scope) & are bench shooting w/ quality match ammo :) I've been shooting for a looooong time :cool: maybe at around 25yds it would be possibe but 100yds -sub moa- w/ bone stock 10/22 :rolleyes: I say no way! A 36gr .22LR (wal-mart bulk pack -Remington) will drop about 2" at 100yds then you factor in the wind down range :o I just don't see it . You might luck one in every once in a while. You couldn't even see the letters at 25yds let alone at 100yds to spell out words !:p Sorry dude I just aint buying it :D
 
Dude is your 10/22 a stock rifle(pencil bbl & iron sights):confused:
I'm not tryig to start a flame here but the keys on a keyboard are about dime size & a stock 10/22 just aint going to do it unless you have some mods ( good trigger & hvy bbl & scope) & are bench shooting w/ quality match ammo :) I've been shooting for a looooong time :cool: maybe at around 25yds it would be possibe but 100yds -sub moa- w/ bone stock 10/22 :rolleyes: I say no way! A 36gr .22LR (wal-mart bulk pack -Remington) will drop about 2" at 100yds then you factor in the wind down range :o I just don't see it . You might luck one in every once in a while. You couldn't even see the letters at 25yds let alone at 100yds to spell out words !:p Sorry dude I just aint buying it :D
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Ok, not quite stock - 10x bushnell scope on it, but nothing "upgraded" on the rifle itself, just the optics. I guess you could call that cheating, but I'm worthless with iron sights.
Ammo is usually the federal or winchester bulk stuff, although we did also use cci stingers. I bought the Remington green box stuff once, but it sucked - I didn't have a fancy thing to measure velocity, but the remington stuff never had consistent velocity - some rounds were supersonic, others weren't (no "snap"), that and FTEs convinced me to just spend the extra $3 for 500 rounds for the other stuff.
Used a spotting scope to confirm what was hit. The place we shoot is usually quite calm.
We also measured it out in paces, which probably made it a bit less than 100 yards, but it wasn't much less.
 
My first gun....and still a favorite :D go for it....also, another one that I love is the Henry lever action .22
 
The 10/22 is a great first rifle.

You can't beat the price and their are many add on parts and upgrade you can do with them.
 
I love my stainless 10/22. I have found that the mag wells in the recievers can be slightly off. I had a 25 rd clip from eagle that did not feed worth a crap in my old ruger and fit loose. It locks up tight and solid in my new stainless one, and has not had a single malfunction in over 1000 rds. I took my 10/22 to a gun show with me so I could test fit mags to buy and saw some that wouldnt lock in and some that fit better than my stock 10rd ruger clip. So test fit those high caps and you will save lots of money on them. I have several now that all feed very well, and never have jammed on me yet.
 
I love my 10/22. So much that the only parts left on it that actually came from Ruger are the reciever and the magazines.
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I still have my dad's first 22 SS lever. I have an adult stock on it now, but when I was a kid I had a youth stock. If you already have hunter's ed down, I think owning a rifle is the next logical step. I don't think your parents would feel blindsided.

+1 on bolt or lever. Semi-auto is nice in theory but anything you're shooting won't require a series of shots rapidly placed.
Have fun, be safe!
 
A 10/22 is a good rifle for upgrading if you aren't sure what you want to end up with, many many upgrades available.
For a beginner I would go for a nice out of the box accurate bolt action.
I have a CZ 452 american and it is phenomenol, though a bit pricey, up to 450$ or so.
Next a savage with accu trigger or a marlin, both are very accurate and well priced.
A bolt action is pretty much a must have for learning shooting technique and discipline, some might say even a single shot bolt action for a first rifle.
My first rimfire was a marlin 60, tube fed semi with 15 shots. Fun as hell but I treated it like a machine gun, never caring really if I missed or hit my target.
Not saying you would do that but it is just so fun it's hard not to. Get a semi for your second .22.:D
 
loraksus said:
Ok, not quite stock - 10x bushnell scope on it, but nothing "upgraded" on the rifle itself, just the optics. I guess you could call that cheating, but I'm worthless with iron sights.
Ammo is usually the federal or winchester bulk stuff, although we did also use cci stingers. I bought the Remington green box stuff once, but it sucked - I didn't have a fancy thing to measure velocity, but the remington stuff never had consistent velocity - some rounds were supersonic, others weren't (no "snap"), that and FTEs convinced me to just spend the extra $3 for 500 rounds for the other stuff.
Used a spotting scope to confirm what was hit. The place we shoot is usually quite calm.
We also measured it out in paces, which probably made it a bit less than 100 yards, but it wasn't much less.
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Dude, the cheap bulk ammo just aint going to do it & a 10x bushnell ain't going to help non either ! Like I said 25yds maybe (I doubt it) The trigger on a stock 10/22 is awful. You would need a good trigger job, new .920 hvy bbl. , quality match grade ammo, & a quality high power scope around 18~24power(nikon,weaver,leupold,etc.....) w/ an A.O . & a lot of practice ! :cool:
 
I still have my "original" 10/22 Sporter from January, 1968 (15th Birthday present from my Dad), as well as a Compact model I picked up recently and put a BSA red-dot sight on. That little rifle is a tack driver!

Ron
 
coaldigger said:
Dude, the cheap bulk ammo just aint going to do it & a 10x bushnell ain't going to help non either ! Like I said 25yds maybe (I doubt it) The trigger on a stock 10/22 is awful. You would need a good trigger job, new .920 hvy bbl. , quality match grade ammo, & a quality high power scope around 18~24power(nikon,weaver,leupold,etc.....) w/ an A.O . & a lot of practice ! :cool:
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Can't say about the rest, that would be pretty spectacular shooting...but the bushnell 3200 10x would easily be up to the job if a guy had a sub-moa rifle to put it on. How many 10/22s are sub moa, even highly modified? I would guess not many. How many are sub moa, out of the box? I would guess very very few! But of course you never know; there is the theoretical possibility that ruger would accidentally build one that accurate. It would sure be a fluke but then I have seen chinese m14s with chambers so sloppy that machinegun brass would rattle around in them shoot moa if they had the specific ammo they liked to eat...if you have an infinite number of monkeys building an infinite number of rugers you will get one that shoots 1 hole
groups, but I wouldn't count on that as a good tip for buying accurate rimfires!

Anyway the point I wanted to make was just that bushnell does make at least one 10x that is a very good target scope; that I would not hesitate to put on a hard-recoiling centerfire, and which would be overkill on a 10/22, so having a 10x bushnell in and of itself does not indicate to me that a gun won't be up to shooting very tiny groups.

I don't know their scopes below the 3200 range at all so they may also have a junk 10x. But the 3200 is an excellent target scope. In fact I believe Barrett recommends them for their .50s.
 
I don't know all the MOA and ballistic stuff but every 10/22 out of the box I have shot has been very accurate :thumbup:
At least for a semi-auto
I have never touched the adjustments on my sights and it's deadeye

When I 1st got my 10/22 my best friend got one at the same time
I was 16
He was all mad because my stock sorta had a tiger stripe grain pattern to it
We took them to the range and he said "I think I'm gonna mess with the elevation and windage settings"
I said,"Well, that's cool...I'm not touching mine...It is deadeye right now...If I have to adjust for windage or elevation I will do the old fashioned way...With my eye and brain...I would highly advise against messing with the settings , but, it's your steel so you can do whatever you want with it"
Sure enough
About 10 minutes later he is complaining how he "can't hit crap with it now!!!"
Every time we go shooting now I give him grief about messing with his settings ;)

The plastic banana clips are a crap shoot
I have some Butler Creek ones that still work
Most of my Ram-Line ones are all messed up
Weak spring
I think there is a way to take them apart and clean them??
I don't even think you can buy large capacity magazines for .22's in California??
Shooting a 10/22 with only a 10 shot magazine is boring IMHO
 
you have two sets of research to do...

1. I want a rifle because

and

2. I want a 10/22 because

go to the NRA website and look at correlation between grades/future behavior and youthful involvement in shooting sports. go to adults your parents respect for the same info. study the laws in your area on how much unsupervised time you can have with a rifle... it varies. Remember, you are trying to prove that you are responsible, so think this section through carefully. Shooting -is- a great way to bond with your parents.

as for the 10/22, there are lots of good reasons... hi cap magazines, lots of after market configurations, etc. But frankly I would sell them on a rifle that shoots a wide variety of ammo. the 10/22 is a decent rifle, but it sure is nice to be able to shoot the other kinds of .22 ammo (short, lomg, etc) I think it is important to show that you are going beyond fashion here... so look into reviews on the rifle and use expert witnessses wherever you can.
 
A bolt gun will teach you better shooting discipline but the 10/22 is a fine choice if you must have a semiauto. Like others my 10/22 was highly modified with a match barrel, different stock, all new trigger parts and other items to where only the receiver, bolt and mags are original Ruger parts. It is very accurate easily getting 1/2 inch groups at fifty yards with cheap Federal bulb pack ammo. With better ammo it can beat that a bit.
 
coaldigger said:
Dude, the cheap bulk ammo just aint going to do it & a 10x bushnell ain't going to help non either ! Like I said 25yds maybe (I doubt it) The trigger on a stock 10/22 is awful. You would need a good trigger job, new .920 hvy bbl. , quality match grade ammo, & a quality high power scope around 18~24power(nikon,weaver,leupold,etc.....) w/ an A.O . & a lot of practice ! :cool:
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What is accuracy to you and what isn't?

Some people think a rifle needs to be able to put 5 shots in the same hole at a given distence. But they will hunt with a rifle that at the same distance will do 3" groups. So where does the line get drawn? IMO to say that a given weapon is unaccurate with out defining it, is just waisting space. Since you feel that the 10/22 is inaccurate, please tell me how good you are with it and what you expect from an accurate rifle. I used to think that my 10/22 wasn't accurate but now I think it's me. I'm going shooting this weekend. Will test out my 10/22 with the factory sights and take pictures at know distences and see if it was me or the gun. I have a Henry lever action .22 to compare it it.

Heber
 
I'm not saying a 10/22 is inaccurate, I like mine & it shoots good, what I was saying is there is NO WAY he is typing out words w/ a stock 10/22 using cheap bulk ammo at 100yds, look at your keys on your key board, can you set it up at 100 yds & shoot out letters to spell out words w/ a stock 10/22 ? :rolleyes: I don't think so ! If your gun will shoot sub-moa groups at 50 yds its a good gun :thumbup: & thats possible. :cool:
No hard feelings here, 10/22's are great .22's !
 
Anyone who thinks a 10/22 is an accurate rifle hasn't shot an accurate rifle.

It is fun and does the job, but it simply isn't capable of the accuracy some are claiming.
 
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