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Ruike Trekker and Criterion, what a SAK should be

Discussion in 'Multi-tools & Multi-purpose Knives' started by panoz77, Feb 28, 2018.

  1. panoz77

    panoz77

    Feb 3, 2007
    I just noticed these by Ruike. IMO, this is what a SAK should be or at least should have evolved into by now. One hand opening operation, removable G-10 scales, integral glass breaker on most models, locking blades AND the most important a semi-deep pocket carry clip. Steel is Sandvik 12C27, I'm planning on getting a Trekker LD-32B. They also have a Criterion collection without the thumb stud for one hand operation but all the other multi-function tool add-on configurations.
     
  2. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    Well, Victorinox have been offering OHO locking folders for years now. I don’t own a single one because that is not what I want from a SAK.

    It sounds like you perceive Victorinox to be all about emergency response (I used to work in frontline emergency services), with glass breakers as standard. Again, there are plenty of options available, not made by Victorinox.

    Perhaps you should contact them and enlighten them as to what is, in your opinion, the right direction for them to take; they could move their production base to China too, I suppose.

    Then, after they have listened, they can show you their annual sales, and you can all have a good laugh about it. :thumbsup:
     
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  3. panoz77

    panoz77

    Feb 3, 2007
    I appreciate your snark, but why don't you comment on the knife and try not to just oppose everything I posted? G-10 removable scales, one hand open in combination with locking blade in combination with semi-deep pocket clip. Where does any SAK offer that? You don't own a single SAK and still have a very opposing position, hmmmm?

    As for glass breakers, where did I mention anything about emergency response? There are many situations where a glass breaker would come in handy for personal use not involving "emergency response".

    Also, what is the problem with China manufacture? Ruike is not a "cloner" or "counterfeiter", so what's with the anti-Chinese rhetoric?
     
  4. danbot

    danbot Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 31, 2009
    I like the looks of it. Very SAK-esqe. But what is the big advantage of removable scales? Other than that and a glass breaker its really just their version of a SAK IMO.
    Have these guys ever had an original idea?
     
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  5. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    I struggle to see how a glass breaker is useful outside of an emergency. The only time I’ve used one I was in uniform and the specialist team from the fire brigade were delayed - it was a very serious emergency.

    And I was responding to your own words, and indeed to the title of this thread. You can call it snark, but perhaps you should consider the words of your OP more carefully? “...what a SAK should be” - your words not mine.

    So, show us the knife, give us the specs, price etc. If you want comments on the Ruike, you need to at least provide a link. And why mention SAK at all, if all you want is to talk about a knife with which few here are familiar?
     
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  6. jackknife

    jackknife

    Oct 2, 2004
    Well, having used SAK's now for about 49 years, I still don't own a SAK that's a locking blade, glass breaker, or one hand opening. Come to think about it, I don't own a unhand opening knife at all, and never have. Somehow I've got by using a Tinker, recruit, or my old stand by the Wenger SI for most my pocket knife jobs. And being old school, I detest pocket clips that get in the way and snag on things. I like my pocket knife where it's supposed to be; deep down in my pocket.

    SAK's are many things to many people. They have been in business for well over a century making products for all those many people in many places. I hope they keep on doing so. For a number of decades now, Victorinox is the worlds biggest knife company, with Opinel running second. They must be doing something right for us peons who don't know what a SAK should be.
     
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  7. panoz77

    panoz77

    Feb 3, 2007
    I would love a SAK with a factory pocket clip and locking blade, they don't offer one. This is exactly what I've been looking for in a SAK. I have a few and other than the classic, they are just annoying and uncomfortable "deep in a pocket".
     
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  8. panoz77

    panoz77

    Feb 3, 2007
    Look it up, Google is tough to use but you'll get the hang of it one day.
     
  9. panoz77

    panoz77

    Feb 3, 2007
    My SAK's right now.

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  10. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    Get one of these. Extrema Ratio m1a1

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    Has deep carry clip
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    Or something smaller?
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  11. danbot

    danbot Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 31, 2009
    Victorinox has been making quite a number of OHO locking multi-tool knives for awhile now. So just because they don't offer them with pocket clips that make Ruike imitations "What a SAK should be"? o_O
     
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  12. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    Nope, why on earth would I do that if the OP can’t even be bothered? Dumb threads get dumb answers. And with that, I’ll leave you to imagining a world where SAK make the knives you want them to make, and I’ll be content using and buying the knives they actually do make. Everybody’s happy. Good luck with your thread.
     
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  13. danbot

    danbot Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 31, 2009
    Yes, posted in a sub-forum where SAK clearly get a lot of love!
    Is there a name for that?:rolleyes:
     
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  14. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    I suspect so. I took delivery of a Pioneer X today, for office use. What a great knife!
     
  15. danbot

    danbot Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 31, 2009
    Awesome! I have the farmer. Almost the same, but no scissors.
     
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  16. panoz77

    panoz77

    Feb 3, 2007
    Are you suggesting this is the incorrect subforum? I didn't realize this subforum was SAK specific lol.
     
  17. danbot

    danbot Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 31, 2009
    The wrong subforum for trolling, yes. But that's really not for me to say is it.
    Best of luck!
     
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  18. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    Then you don't want a SAK and victorinox doesn't want or need to make what you want them to, they are doing just fine making what they already make.

    Not once have I said to myself I wish Vic would make what these things are and clearly most people haven't done so either.

    So go buy and enjoy the tool, but realize that when you say a tool should be what one of the already most functional and beloved tools should be, most will not agree.
     
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  19. panoz77

    panoz77

    Feb 3, 2007
    Sure buddy, I'm "trolling". What is your problem with Ruike and why would posting one of their innovative knives be trolling? I'm planning on buying on soon, already have a Ruike P801 and it is a really nice knife so I know they make quality products.
     
  20. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    Farmer is my other Alox, such a fab knife. Thought I would treat myself for the day job - scissors likely to come in handier than the saw most days! :)
     
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