Russian Blades

Inasmuchas your profile doesn't tell where you are, we don't know who the "we" in "Are they similar to the ones we have?" is.

In general, Russian blades are made of metal, long and thin, have a sharp edge and a pointed tip.
 
In general custom russian fixed blade knives are way ahead of the custom western knives:

http://www.geocities.com/nozh2002/guild_eng.html
http://www.geocities.com/nozh2002/basko_eng.html
http://www.geocities.com/nozh2002/Zlatoust_eng.html

This is old school. They are art creations and cost thousands. They are hand made by artists which learn it in special art colleges...

However nobody doing folding knives at all. In this area US leading for sure.

Also in Russia damasc and bulat (wootz) is almost standart for custom blades and nobody doing wootz here, nobody even know about it. In Russia they have severil kinds of bulat and even stainless (Soskov and Arkhangelsky - famous bladesmith doing bulat):
http://www.damask.nm.ru/index.html

However knive production is not really developed. There are few respected producers - South Crest (finnish kind of knives), Kizlyar (Caucasus Region knives) etc.

You may check out my site:
http://www.geocities.com/nozh2002/index_eng.html

There are also some special military knives but in general out of scope of general public. There is one ranger knive with small one bullet gun in the handle etc.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
I came upon these links of a scan from a 4 page brochure.
CAPO/SARO - Russian knives
http://knives.at/images/1k.jpg
http://knives.at/images/2k.jpg
http://knives.at/images/3k.jpg
http://knives.at/images/4k.jpg

As I understand, these are quite highly rated for a Russian brand.
And that CAPO/SARO is a Russia military knife supplier/manufacturer(?).
And whilst most of these illustrated here are the hunting range, some models are actually Russian military, "reskinned" or otherwise.

At this stage, I know absolutely nothing more.
Any further information would be highly appreciated.



Krizzard, out

"...Whoever kills with the sword must be killed by the sword... "
- The New Testament, Revelation 13:10
 
Speaking of this...Anybody know where nice local knives can be had at reasonble prices in Moscow? My Brother lives there now. He works for British Petroleum.
 
SARO is not on top - good but not the best, but I'll check on Russian forum.
2 Eager
Ilia Kulikov is highly rated. He makes knives from bulat and they cost about $300 This is his site:
http://www.damask.nm.ru/index.html

Also I recommend "Russkie Palaty" - they have shop in Moscow, but I never deal with them, just saw website:
http://www.russkie-palaty.csm.ru/

However it is about $300 price range.
This is Moscow knife shops:
http://knifefoto.narod.ru/moscow.htm

Look at South Crest and Kizliar.

Oh, this is Kizlyar website:
http://www.kizlyar.ru

Thanks, Vassili.
 
I would have thought it would be at least considered mid-range of Russian production knives.
Bottom, huh?
Against customs and the likes the world over?
Or just amongst every Russian production knife company currently in operations?

What about this Aitor Jungle King 2 copy?
http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/nv1.shtml
Or this Mil blade.
http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/kni-arm.shtml
How do these rate in fit and finish?

What about this site?
http://www.spetsnaz.ru/knives_e.html
Is the information credible?

Tell me what most Russians think of the Smersh brand.
http://www.spetsnaz.ru/knives/smersh5_e.html

Thank's again :-)


Krizzard, out

"...Whoever kills with the sword must be killed by the sword... "
- The New Testament, Revelation 13:10
 
Russian knives sale in the Czech

Prices here: 2750 czk = 100 usd

Steel is (all knives in list) 50X14MF (56-58Rc)


:D ...look for Pterodactyl, they write, its urban tactical knife, eee....but with corkscrew ?? So who know, maybe it is very important tool...for vodka opening ...:D :D
 
Ok, may I put some comments?

First problem -- we have Russian knife laws. The worst part of them are called GOST's (State standarts) and are real pain under the tail. If shortned they mean that your blade should either be under 90mm, or be thinner then 2.4 mm, or knife must have no hilt or deep finger grooves. Or you must haver firearm license to buy one.
Problem two -- majority of sales are made to people, who don't want to spend too much. Result -- not too good.
Now to companies.
SARO -- foget them. Things can be worse, but they'd rather not. Poor steel (something like 425) Interesting, yet not too functional desighn, and poor quality.

Southen Cross -- Have good reputation. Well-desighned, fine steel.

ROSorujie -- Another good brand. Solid, old-fasioned, well made. I've got their damascuss blade and pleased.

NOKS. Controversial. Really. It has some fans, yet many people curse it. It's nearly only company wich makes "tactical"-styled knives. Won't lie, being original is not easy :) . The most common problem -- QC and prices too steep for their quality.
 
2 Krizzard :
In army, we have now, maybe, not more than 20 official knives (without marine daggers - it's only part of uniform)
1) bayonets like that http://www.kalashforever.narod.ru/bknife.html ,
2) some knives for recon troops like NR-2 http://toz.vpk.ru/rus/hp2li.htm and
3) NRS-2 http://arms-museum.tulanews.ru/images/photonew/53_3_.jpg with shooting mechanism
4) some different knives for army divers
5) knives for pilots (simple folder with 3 blades, as I remember) and paratroopers (for cutting slings in emergency).
All of them are produced by special factories, not private companies. But some soldiers and officers can simply buy something in regular shop (if they like some knife more then official).
BUT now some knife-making companies, who hawe "unofficial contacts" with supply officers, can directly sell some knives to army. It's like with SMERSH knives. And after it, such companies can say "we are official suppliers of army" - but it's 100% not true. In such illegal way, that companies got big advertising.
On many Russian knife forums you can every time see flames about knives form such company - NOKS (they made SMERSH knives)... Some people says that it's practically 100% ****, but other still says: "It's cool, real tactical knives!" ... And I can say - it's our big misfortune, that Russian mass-production of knives is on very low level of quality and construction practicalness. Only South Cross and Kyzliar are good enough....
 
I can't thank you all enough, Bushman-Moscow, Pyton357ru & nozh2002.

Bushman-Moscow & 'Posse': I would like to extend my appreciation and would like to have you all join us here
http://www.knifeforums.com/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=UBB40
Whenever you fellas feel ready.
I am sure there is lots we could learn from each other.


Krizzard, out

"...Whoever kills with the sword must be killed by the sword... "
- The New Testament, Revelation 13:10
 
Originally posted by nozh2002
In general custom russian fixed blade knives are way ahead of the custom western knives:
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I guess that's all a matter of opinion. I think that there are many great knives being made in Russia and as works of art many Russian knives are outstanding. I do not however believe that the knives being made in Russia are of any higher quality than the knives being made in North America. Just because Russian makers use a lot of bulat/wootz and damascus does not make their knives any better than those that are being made here. By the way, there are lots of North American makers that use damascus and a few that use bulat/wootz.

By the way, I very much like the knives of Ilia Kulikov.
 
Sorry, Keith.

I should correct myself - I mean art knives $5000-$10000. I doubt that there is market for such knives here (Wight House doesn't buying such things, but Kremlin does). From what I see on the web - there are a lot of extremely well crafted knives, but not to much art in it.

Russian custom knives may be same as here in quality (I hope).

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Vassili, I´ve had a great time looking at your inks. Absolutely, a new dimension in knives. Thanks.
Simona, I can´t open the link you posted. Can you please check it´s right?.
Jaime.
 
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