Rust Protection - Tuff Cloth

Nope, Koz, Vlad and Frank.
In honor of my uncles from the land beyond the forest( trans=across or beyond ) ( sylvan=forest ). I did name my pickup Rocinante, after Don Quixote's steed though.

Arvind, were you talking about the khanjarlis I asked Uncle Bill about some 4-6 weeks ago? Yvsa and I were both drooling over them.

Also, here's a link khuk junkies might enjoy.
When the two frames comes up, go to the left column and scroll down to and click on Shasters. Check out the very bottom photo. I don't think it's the display in the Golden Temple Arvind mentioned, but it does show a bunch of weapon styles. Including a picture of a forward curved and I think it's a traditional cho'd "khokri".

http://home.talkcity.com/LibraryDr/vickey1611/california.html

Incidentally, Arvind, the sword blades look very much like western sabres. Hilts differ ornamentally in style but same functionally. And one of the manufacturers of swords during the American Civil War is still in business and brought the Model 1862 Light Cavalry Saber back to production to original specifications for $125. Email me if you are interested.

Uncle Bill and the rest of you - I'm thinking that finding a place to train in Bando is difficult. Sikhs, however, apparently teach a bunch of weapons in Gatka, of which the khukuri is one. And where there are Sikhs, there is Gatka training. Arvind, can you fill us in anymore on this? I notice you welcome non-Sikhs to come into your temples, would non-Sikhs be welcome to train in Gatka? Just an educated guess would be fine, we all know people are people, and like the Jews joke about themselves, you ask two Jews a question and you end up getting three different opinions. I speak for myself only, and who knows that I won't change my mind tomorrow?

I know, Yvsa is probably calling me the Indin equivalent of hot wind, so I'll FINALLY shut up!
 
Rusty,

On the subject of gatka training, it depends on where you live. In my area there are a number of Sikhs and we also have a Gurudwara(Sikh Temple). However, no gatka school. When you told me about the two schools in Fresno, that was a little surprising since I've never known any to be formally open as schools. Usually most gatka training that I've seen, takes place in religious camps conducted through the gurudwara and usually children are taught in religious studies as well as gatka. My suggestion would be if anyone knows of a formal gatka school and would be interested, then they should inquire at that particular school. Because if schools have started to open then that usually means they are teaching it more openly. If you could provide me with the links to those two schools you mentioned in Fresno Rusty, then I could inquire of them whether they train everyone or only Sikhs.
That would also give me an idea about. One more thing of note is I've seen gatka typically performed using one or two swords. However, I think it can be applied very well with khukuris as well.
 
Rusty,

I went to the site you pointed out, I did notice actually that this is one of the schools you mentioned and also noted the mispelling of Khukuri. Basically the only other reason might be for the way it's pronounced in Punjabi. As to the cavalry sword, much as I am interested Rusty, I have to give in to budgetary considerations here at home hehe. Btw, I received my 16.5 inch WWII and all I can say is the reviews on here of HI Khukuris are very much justified. HI makes a great hand crafted khukuri and you can tell just by looking at the scabbard, the brass fittings on it, the handle and the khukuri itself. I only wish I had pictures. The 16.5 inch I have is the only horn handled one that Kaka Bill had and even though they usually come in wood handle, I think with the horn handle also they are very good. The grip is great and it almost seems like it was custom fit for my hand. One note on the sharpness, the blade did not come too sharp for which I'm glad because initially I drew the khukuri the wrong way ( the "no" picture in the brochure that Uncle sends on safety). I think I'm going to keep the blade that way till I'm as familiar with the way the knife handles. Only when I'm extremely familiar will I sharpen it to razor( hair popping sharpness). I still have a scar on my left index finger as a momento of what can happen if you are not careful with a sharp knife. This scar had three stitches in it when I first got cut.
 
The link in my previous post is to the Fresno area. Possibly the one north of SanFrancisco would be another. Can't remember name. Will look. Thanks again.
 
Just need to remember to walk softly in stockinged feet. That way, though toes will get stepped on sooner or later, it should be more an embarrasment than the injury that would result from wearing hobnailed boots.

I'm going back and re-reading Arvind's posts, and the second or third time, I see what he's referring to. The first time, my mind insists it knows what he means and ignores evidence that doesn't agree with it's preconceptions.
Arvind is actually quite clear - I'm the one with problems with what I know that isn't so.
 
I noticed that the Sikh/Gatka word for "staff weapon" seems to be "Dang".

I find this highly appropriate, if a bit surprising. If I got wacked with such a thing I think I'd be very hard pressed to limit my commentary to a simple "DANG!".

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Sorry...along with Rusty I'm sort of a resident prankster around here.

In any event, the basic Sikh idea of linking weapon carry to the idea of being personally responsible for justice is one I can most certainly respect.

Jim March
 
Arvind: I may have been unclear but the two schools were the one in Fresno, and I think the other may have been in the Amritsar area.

The other gurdwara in California:

http://www.angelfire.com/ak/satguru/

And also it fell into place what you said about gatka being taught in camps, along with religious studies. On one website it said very roughly remembered, that the techniques were nothing without the spirit.

Yeah! It would be unethical to teach devastating techniques to teens with little concept of right and wrong. I suspect every martial art has ways to deal with this. You don't get taught techniques that cause great injury til you have a concept of right and justice, and some self cotrol.
 
Actually, very few of those kind do know technique.

As I said after the deal in LA at the Jewish family/childcare center, thank God he had a machine gun. If he'd had a single shot gun, or a bolt action, he might have stopped and aimed, and killed someone at the center.

These jerks watch TV and see someone wave a gun toward someone, pull the trigger, and make hits most every time. They think guns are magic. Thank God again.

And they are cowards. At Columbine, they ran wild until a cop tried to pull a wounded child out of the line of fire with one hand.
They shot at the cop and he shot back one handed with an AR15 and missed, but still close enough to them that they ran for their hole - the library. Outgoing fire for them was fun, fun, fun. There wasn't supposed to be any kind of incoming.

Down off my soapbox. What has this to do with knives? They aren't registered ( yet ) so the government knows you have them and can come to take them away.
 
Arvind,

On the topic of rust protection. I have used Marine tuff cloth and it seems to work very well. I often use my khukuri's in the rain and they along with the scabbards get soaked. I have not had any serious problems with rust.

I also, coat my knives with automotive rust inhibitors, namely Rust Check and Krown. I soak a sponge and keep it a doubled up Zip lock bag.

Will
 
Howard,put this in your FAQS.I am not going to say it again.Use Peanut oil.It is good for wood,it saves it from humidity changes,it wont hurt leather,it re oils the knife upon resheathing,it does not thicken,or turn gummy in 100 degs.You can eat it.It does not turn rancid.Of course,Rancid Crabtree would not notice.Now,if you think that your khukuri is a diving knife,disregard the above.

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Thanks Will, I just got my Marine Tuff Cloth from Sentry Solutions. I have'nt taken my khukuri out in the rain exactly, but it seems like it improves on the finish of the khukuri once you wipe off the oil and then apply it. I have'nt had any opportunity to take mine around particularly since the laws around this area are pretty tough regarding knives. I live in New Jersey and they are rather tough on issues like knives. I will get some opportunities when I go to Connecticut over the weekends though because there are a lot of hiking trails there and I can get to use it at that time..
 
Ghost,

Thank you. You are absolutely correct. A corrosion prevention section is needed in the FAQ. I'll put it on my list of things to do, and I'll be sure to mention your advocacy of peanut oil, and the other approaches in this thread. Please be patient with me though. My list is long, and my laziness is great.


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Howard Wallace
Khukuri FAQ

 
I have a question on sharpening. I realize that some of the previous threads have probably beaten this subject to death but at the risk of sounding repetitive, I would like to ask, what is the best and easiest way to sharpen a khukuri. I am a little leery about sharpening it freehand only because I do not have experience sharpening any type of knife either freehand or fixed angle.
 
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