S30V-good-not so?

[bkkd]

Search function.

ok, i dont want to hijack the thread, but i got a little rant about people who immediately jump in when somebody ask a question and says.... . .SEARCH FUNCTION..........

ok maybe im weird and like to maybe talk to somebody about something......and yes i use the search also......

maybe there are new users with said steel and they might have new opinions about it that was not in the search function.

how do you suppose all those threads got into the search to begin with?

and im not bashing anybody........i just find it a little rude when somebody does that.

be a pretty boring place around here if all we did was use the search function, eh?

 

[Kaizen1]

ok, i dont want to hijack the thread, but i got a little rant about people who immediately jump in when somebody ask a question and says.... . .SEARCH FUNCTION..........

ok maybe im weird and like to maybe talk to somebody about something......and yes i use the search also......

maybe there are new users with said steel and they might have new opinions about it that was not in the search function.

how do you suppose all those threads got into the search to begin with?

and im not bashing anybody........i just find it a little rude when somebody does that.

be a pretty boring place around here if all we did was use the search function, eh?

I semi agree with this. There are certain subjects that have been discussed a little too much and most of the questions, if not all, can be answered by what's already been posted. I know some new guys just don't realize that they can search for such answers, so someone should tell them just in case they didn't realize to use it or just forgot. So i don't think we should be rude to the new guys, but they should be notified about subjects that have been talked about ad nauseum.

I really start to get irritated at the "Why does everyone hate CS?" threads. There's no need for such redundancy.

I don't think that we should continue to speak about the same things over and over though. If there's a new question about an old subject, then that's a different story IMO.

 

[powercut]

S30V is a good steel when given a good heat treat and the bevel angle is not more than 18° per side 36° total, give or take 10%. Take it up to 30° total bevel angle or above you'll get great cutting abillity but not on harder materials. The big vanadium carbides in the steel will simply tear out because there is not enough steel left to support the matrix. In other words the edge chips . S30V a great steel you just got to know the nature of the beast.

yes, this horse has been beaten to death:jerkit: and again and again:foot:

 

[T.K.C.]

I have many knives in S30V (all customs), and I have not had one iota of problems with any of them.

 

[Twindog]

S30V is a good steel when given a good heat treat and the bevel angle is not more than 18° per side 36° total, give or take 10%. Take it up to 30° total bevel angle or above you'll get great cutting abillity but not on harder materials. The big vanadium carbides in the steel will simply tear out because there is not enough steel left to support the matrix. In other words the edge chips.

S30V a great steel you just got to know the nature of the beast.

It ain't a great steel if you can't run it at 30 degrees.

 

[A.P.F.]

Arkansas' will work great on this steel for basic edge maintenance but not for general sharpening unless you have alot of time on your hands. They have the advantage of polishing as they sharpen but are not known for their cutting action, especially on premium steels like S30V. Diamonds are the cat's meow for this steel if you let your knife get blunt or need to regrind to change the edge profile.

NJ

@ Neeman - Native Justice pegged it exactly. I use a hard Arkansas for frequent edge maintenance and not for extensive steel removal. I like to do frequent touch-ups before the edge gets bad. Again as NJ suggested, diamond makes your day go easier.

 

[Kaizen1]

S30V is a good steel when given a good heat treat and the bevel angle is not more than 18° per side 36° total, give or take 10%. Take it up to 30° total bevel angle or above you'll get great cutting abillity but not on harder materials. The big vanadium carbides in the steel will simply tear out because there is not enough steel left to support the matrix. In other words the edge chips . S30V a great steel you just got to know the nature of the beast.

yes, this horse has been beaten to death:jerkit: and again and again:foot:

I keep mine at roughly 30 degrees inclusive and I've never seen any chips whatsoever. Granted, I don't rough my knives up. What do you mean by "harder materials"? Yablanowitz, a fellow member, keeps his knives between 30-40 degrees if I remember correctly and the guy does some kind of construction. I've read his posts stating that he goes through 10+ knives daily because he does so much cutting and I've never read about him having chipping issues (at least none about how S30V chipped more than the other steels).

So I'm just curious:
What materials specifically are you talking about?
Which steels under the same circumstances would be able to handle that type of cutting?
What are you basing your conclusion on?

 

[Gerberblades]

All my experiences with s30v have been great. Nothing major is what I meant by that. I put a small chip in my Al Mar SO, Iam not sure how though.

 

[J. Rosa]

ok, i dont want to hijack the thread, but i got a little rant about people who immediately jump in when somebody ask a question and says.... . .SEARCH FUNCTION..........

ok maybe im weird and like to maybe talk to somebody about something......and yes i use the search also......

maybe there are new users with said steel and they might have new opinions about it that was not in the search function.

how do you suppose all those threads got into the search to begin with?

and im not bashing anybody........i just find it a little rude when somebody does that.

be a pretty boring place around here if all we did was use the search function, eh?

I wasn't trying to be rude. I was trying to be helpful. There are plenty of threads on this subject. I do agree that some things can change and new opinions or info can be brought to light, however not all of the archived threads are incredibly old. That being said it would be different to recap the info in any previously existing threads and ask if anything has changed opinion wise or in the overall HT process used by makers versus rehashing the varied opinions of this steel again, and again, and again. Perhaps the briefness of my first post was indeed rude and had it been phrased differently following an opinion on the steel itself it might have been more acceptable. Lycosa, if I offended you in any way I apologize.

 

[knarfeng]

ok, i dont want to hijack the thread, but i got a little rant about people who immediately jump in when somebody ask a question and says.... . .SEARCH FUNCTION..........

ok maybe im weird and like to maybe talk to somebody about something......and yes i use the search also......

maybe there are new users with said steel and they might have new opinions about it that was not in the search function.

how do you suppose all those threads got into the search to begin with?

and im not bashing anybody........i just find it a little rude when somebody does that.

be a pretty boring place around here if all we did was use the search function, eh?

I often suggest the search function because I often remember reading numerous threads about a subject (And BTW S30V is one of those subjects) and they have far more information than I can possibly put in a single post. A search will provide way more information than a few short lines in each of the dozen responses that a new thread will provide.

Now the suggestion in this thread may have been somewhat short. but the suggestion of running a search is still valid.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

If someone is really new and uses the search, he'll be able to understand all the new answers in his thread better than if he waits for us to re-invent the wheel for him. The search function can be hard to use for really common terms, though.

 

[Lycosa]

No offense taken. Have fun with BF's. Thanks for all the responses. The more I learn about steel today, the more I like the old faithful A-2!
Lycosa