Saddle springs and ring locks

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Lately, I've been paying more attention to folding knives with external springs -- saddle springs, as I've been calling them, since, well.... that's sorta what they look like. It's an age-old mechanism, a design that I see as one step beyond a friction folder. They can be found all over the world, stretching back hundreds of years, and some are still made today. One of the most common, the Okapi ratchet knife, is still produced and widely used in South Africa, and popular all over the continent. The design is traditionally used in Spain as well, with ratcheting navajas of all shapes and sizes being used as tools and weapons for generations upon generations. This type of knife can be a simple working tool, verging on crude, or can be a polished piece of sharp jewelry, like some of the more fancy Spanish examples, and as we have seen a few times in the Sardinian Connection thread. Some use a ring to lift the spring, others use a lever. There are many incarnations and variations, and I'm eager to see all of them!
What I would like to know is, how many of you folks have these, or enjoy them, and may want to share yours?

Here are a few of mine.

Okapi, made in South Africa. Simple working knife, no frills (well.... unless you count the weird stars pressed into the handle).

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Large, unmarked folder, very similar to the Okapi. Nothing fancy, just a good working knife. (And huge!) The fellow from whom I bought it thinks it's from the 1800s.

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Punta de espada, made by Martinez of Albacete, Spain

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I have another large ratcheting navaja, in a similar style to that Martinez, that I will post later, once I can take a decent photograph of it.


Also, here are a couple ring lock knives that do *not* have an external saddle spring, so I suppose they're cousins.

Joker, also made in Spain.

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Campolin switch, an Italian remake of a French knife.

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So, who's got ring pull or saddle spring knives? Please share!
 
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I only have one, a Joker. Build quality is quite poor.



My favorite knife of this type is an old French one Fes owns. Carbon steel blade and a stag handle, it's beautiful.
 
Thanks, Christian! Your Joker looks nice, even though you say it's not the highest build quality.
I sure do love that big monster of FES'. I was just thinking, I haven't seen him here in a while, but I hope he comes back and shows that one again.
 
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Just today, on a complete lark, I picked up a Cold Steel Kudu ring knife. They're dirt cheap and I wanted to get a feel for the ratchet action and locking mechanism. It'll probably become our traveling kitchen knife, as it's about the size of a large paring knife.

-- Mark
 
I ordered a Cold Steel Kudu last night ... $6.00.
Since then, I've heard of quite a few "accidents" with the Kudu. Seems more so than the average knife. I'll need to be extra careful with it I guess ... not mod it and use it as designed, not try and get "fancy" with handling it.
 
I won a gaw Okapi here some time ago. Pictured below with my longer-owned Kudu. I could see people hurting themselves closing these, though I haven't. Coincidentally, I just found my Okapi in a box and used it to cut up some other boxes.
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I still think the okapi is an odd knife, looking like a southern European peasant knife, but made in Germany and named after a new animal, as if to suggest it's a new kind of knife..

If Andi's Lierenaar counts, so should the German stilettos- quite similar lock- I don't think I have a picture of mine though.
 
Andi, I was hoping you would post that one! I was racking my brain, trying to remember its name, but drawing a blank. :thumbup:

Thanks, guys. Keep 'em coming!

Scrteened porch, I would think they count, if they sport a saddle spring or a ring lock or something in the same family, and I would love to see them, if you can snap a couple pics at your convenience. :thumbup:
 
My enthusiasm ran away with me- the stiletto has a hole in the spring to catch a stud on the tang, but releases with a push on the other end of the spring.
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Cool thread Alex! You have some great examples, thanks for sharing them.


Well, I don´t know if it qualifies your definition. But the Lierenaar comes in mind, when it comes to out-laying springs...

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...renaar-a-knife-from-the-belgian-german-border

I don´t have the knife anymore, it is now in better hands in the US.

Andi, I'm going to put these shots in your thread too. Thanks again for thinking of me with this knife :thumbup: You are too kind :)

Lierenaar

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I saw past the rough exterior of this knife, and gave it some contour and de-burred the strap spring. It's quite a comfortable and secure grip now, than from it's original utilitarian state, seen in Andi's link.


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At 4-3/4" closed with a 3-1/4" blade, it's a quite capable knife, surprisingly light, and the lock is extremely secure, especially considering the simple nature of its construction.


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This 9" folder was purchased somewhere in the south of Europe in the mid 1960's. The handle is a single piece of horn (likely cow ?) slit along the underside to accomodate the closed blade. The only marking is "INOX" on the back tang. It's a real knife. The blade is sharp and 100% solid in lockup.
The comparison knife is a 4" Camillus Stockman, 884, from the Woodcraft series.

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15" open tip to tip in a straight line.

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Anyone know the most likely country of origin ? Spain ?
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You made a great knife out of that Lierenaar, my friend. I´m glad you got it and it is now in better hands than in my paws.

I like what you did with the spring and the handle!
 
You made a great knife out of that Lierenaar, my friend. I´m glad you got it and it is now in better hands than in my paws.

I like what you did with the spring and the handle!
I smile and think of you, every time I use it to eat an apple or pear ;)
 
Okapi was from DRC originally , owned by German. Okapi syndrome is where a dude finds his girlfriend with a sugar daddy and sorts them out with a cheap Okapi.
 
I've always liked the aesthetics of these ring lock blades, but I wish someone would make one that was scaled down a bit size-wise, most of the ones I've seen are a bit too large for my taste.
 
I really dig that Martinez in the OP.

My girlfriend saw a few pictures of a Kudu and wants one. But after seeing our own Comeuppance's gaping wound from the other day and knowing the fact that she's rather... ah, clumsy, I'm thinking that's maybe a bad idea. I see, in my future, an ER trip.
 
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