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Sadsbury neighbors say man attacked by mountain lion
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An Update with Video.
A Strange Wild Cat Attacks an Amish Farmer in Quarryville
http://www.fox43.com/pages/morning_news_landing/?A-Strange-Wild-Cat-Attacks-an-Amish-Farm=1&blockID=91945&feedID=458
A Strange Wild Cat Attacks an Amish Farmer in Quarryville
http://www.fox43.com/pages/morning_news_landing/?A-Strange-Wild-Cat-Attacks-an-Amish-Farm=1&blockID=91945&feedID=458
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Livestock and the Threat to their Children. They shoot Coyotes for this reason too.
If you wear Seatbelts or make your Children wear them, Do you wear them because something might happen?
Like Seatbelts, this is Prevention
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This doesn't sound like there is a problem with the Cars as much as a problem with the "English" being Careless in an area with Amish.
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Sadsbury neighbors say man attacked by mountain lion
Intelligencer Journal
Oct 10, 2008
By JENNIFER TODD and P.J. REILLY, Staff
State police and game commission officials were searching for a possible mountain lion Thursday night after a Sadsbury Township man was attacked.
After scouring the area east of Route 896 for several hours, police and game commission officers called off the search shortly after 11 p.m. They will return this morning to resume looking for the animal, which they believe is wounded.
Linda Swank, a wildlife conservation officer for the Pennsylvania Game Commission, said she could confirm that there was an animal attack. However, she said she could not confirm that the animal is a mountain lion.
Neighbors said Samuel Fisher, of 71 Mount Pleasant Road, was attacked near his home shortly before 6 p.m. He was taken to Lancaster General Hospital, where he was still being evaluated late Thursday night, according to a nursing supervisor.
After spotting what neighbors said was a mountain lion in his field around 5:30 p.m., Fisher retrieved his rifle and fired a shot, wounding the animal, which then fled into the woods, one neighbor said.
When Fisher entered the woods to search for the wounded animal, he told the neighbor a mountain lion jumped out of a tree and onto his back.
"He said it felt like 150 pounds hit him," said the neighbor, who did not want to be identified. Fisher told the neighbor he turned around and the animal began clawing at his chest and arms. He retrieved a knife from his pocket and stabbed the large cat, which then ran away, the neighbor said.
Fisher made his way to a neighbor's house, told her he was attacked by a mountain lion, asked her to call 911; then he collapsed, the neighbor said.
Several neighbors found a blood trail and began tracking the animal but lost the trail in a field, a neighbor said.
Neighbors said they have seen mountain lions in the area several times in the last two months, with sightings increasing in the last week. They said the cats are about 8 feet long with 3-foot tails.
One neighbor said Fisher saw three mountain lions near his farm Wednesday night.
On Tuesday night, two of Fisher's neighbors said they were using spotlights and saw the cats in a field on Mount Pleasant Road. When they returned with their guns, the animals were gone, they said.
Wildlife Conservation Officer Dennis Warfel said he and another officer went to the area last week after receiving several calls reporting mountain lion sightings. Officials placed a dead deer in a field to attract any mountain lions that might be in the area, but the effort turned up nothing, Warfel said.
Intelligencer Journal
Oct 10, 2008
By JENNIFER TODD and P.J. REILLY, Staff
State police and game commission officials were searching for a possible mountain lion Thursday night after a Sadsbury Township man was attacked.
After scouring the area east of Route 896 for several hours, police and game commission officers called off the search shortly after 11 p.m. They will return this morning to resume looking for the animal, which they believe is wounded.
Linda Swank, a wildlife conservation officer for the Pennsylvania Game Commission, said she could confirm that there was an animal attack. However, she said she could not confirm that the animal is a mountain lion.
Neighbors said Samuel Fisher, of 71 Mount Pleasant Road, was attacked near his home shortly before 6 p.m. He was taken to Lancaster General Hospital, where he was still being evaluated late Thursday night, according to a nursing supervisor.
After spotting what neighbors said was a mountain lion in his field around 5:30 p.m., Fisher retrieved his rifle and fired a shot, wounding the animal, which then fled into the woods, one neighbor said.
When Fisher entered the woods to search for the wounded animal, he told the neighbor a mountain lion jumped out of a tree and onto his back.
"He said it felt like 150 pounds hit him," said the neighbor, who did not want to be identified. Fisher told the neighbor he turned around and the animal began clawing at his chest and arms. He retrieved a knife from his pocket and stabbed the large cat, which then ran away, the neighbor said.
Fisher made his way to a neighbor's house, told her he was attacked by a mountain lion, asked her to call 911; then he collapsed, the neighbor said.
Several neighbors found a blood trail and began tracking the animal but lost the trail in a field, a neighbor said.
Neighbors said they have seen mountain lions in the area several times in the last two months, with sightings increasing in the last week. They said the cats are about 8 feet long with 3-foot tails.
One neighbor said Fisher saw three mountain lions near his farm Wednesday night.
On Tuesday night, two of Fisher's neighbors said they were using spotlights and saw the cats in a field on Mount Pleasant Road. When they returned with their guns, the animals were gone, they said.
Wildlife Conservation Officer Dennis Warfel said he and another officer went to the area last week after receiving several calls reporting mountain lion sightings. Officials placed a dead deer in a field to attract any mountain lions that might be in the area, but the effort turned up nothing, Warfel said.
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I hope he is going to be OK. The article does say how long he waited to go into the woods to look for the wounded animal (if it was even wounded at all with the rifle shot). If he shot it at 5:30, maybe he went in at 6:30 before it got dark. I think maybe it would have been better, in hindsight, to wait until morning.
Good thing he had a knife on him. I wonder what brand it was and whether it was a fixed blade or folder. If it was a folder, then I wonder what he has to say about unfolding it to stab the lion.
Good thing he had a knife on him. I wonder what brand it was and whether it was a fixed blade or folder. If it was a folder, then I wonder what he has to say about unfolding it to stab the lion.
An American Indian told me; "What the white-man doesn't understand, he kills." Good post, Spider.
how do we know it was a white man that shot it..
to me its not what i dont understand,more like what i fear attacking,killing and eating me i kill.
i'm thinking that maybe with all the debate of whether or not they exist in that particular area that he may have just wanted to get actual proof of one and a carcass with a hole in it should do it.
in the Adirondak Mtns. of up-state NY there have been mountain lion sightings for years with actual sightings observed and tracks found by credible and experienced people like game wardens and biologists.
they totally deny any possibility of mountain lions around here.
they even released a bunch of them that where brought here from the rockies but they say that they didnt make it or successfully breed and that most where hit by cars and killed.
i dont know if there here but when i'm way back in them dark woods at night without a firearm it does cross my mind.
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Just wait till you are alone in the woods at night, with no lights around and hear the Growl, that will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.
This is what happened to me one night as I walked the Dogs. LOL I guess dogs and cats just don't get along no matter what the size.
I've never heard anything like it in my life and didn't say a thing to anybody because it's like seeing a UFO, who is going to believe you.
Less than 6 Months later one of my kids had one run out in front of them going down the road. So close they locked up the Brakes to avoid hitting it.
They got a very good look at it, with it being 10' in front of the car.
This one was about the size of my Avatar, about the 80 to 90 LB range.
This happened to my kid less than 1500 FT from home and to me less than 400 Ft from the House.
I've been in this area of Forest going on 50 years, we really didn't see Bear, Bobcat, Coyote and now Mountain Lion, until the last 10 to 15 years.
Now it's become common.
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Yup, that's the official policy statement up here. I've personally seen a bobcat cross the highway and it is nothing like a mountain lion. The bobcat is about the size of a small dog and has no tail to speak of ("bob-tailed cat"
) They are elusive and seldom seen, like coyotes, but they are here.We have had personal sightings of long-tailed mountain lions, or catamounts, around here but the official position is that it ain't so.
I don't get the reasoning behind taking a crack shot at it and then 'wounding it', and heading into the woods alone to 'go finish it off'. Sounds like he needs remedial Hunting 101, and another Hunter Safety Course before they renew his licsence. Surprised the PA Game wardens did'nt charge the guy for stupidity. As far as the cat 'jumping out of a tree and landing on the guy's back'; yet the guy was able to get the cat off and remove a knife from his pocket, that sounds pretty dubious too. Especially if it was'nt the 'wounded cat' IME. I spent a considerable time around big cats, and they are born to kill, not take prisoners. A feral farm cat is a handful, go try and pick one up and see how big a fight it gives you. Now try a bobcat on for size, which, in the right circumstances can kill an adult dog. Next you have a mountain lion which can take down a full grown deer with little effort, and generally kill with a throat hold or by severing the spine at the base of the skull. If this guy was trully pinned down with a cat on his back he should be dead from such a bite. The doctors could have a big cat person examine the wounds to determine the animal that made them IME. I have a half dozen farm cats around and I only wished my knives had edges as sharp as their claws, now THAT'S a convex edge!!
Very intresting. I wonder why?
Visiting relatives in Wisconsin in the 50's, I was quite surprised how famers react to a "varmit". Usually there is a loaded rifle right at the back door. It is used immediately at the sight of an unwanted animal. I didn't ask questions. I just observed how other people live. "Kinda" different than with city liberals. Not to mention, I observed the same thing in Colorado while elk hunting.
I think country folks have been living a different life style for quite some time. Hell I went on plenty of deer hunts when I was the youngest, and the majority were in their 70's and 80's. You can learn allot keeping your mouth shut and your eyes open.
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The Illinois DNR denied that there were mountain lions in IL even after one was shot in a suburb of Chicago.
The Great Cougar Cover Up
Hey BlackHills,
Thanks for posting this. Around where I live, there have been sporadic reports of cougar sightings over the last few years. This, of course, has been denied by the local authorities and dismissed as misidentification despite that one of the sightings was made by a licensed trapper.
More recently, I had occasion to walk into a book store and be greeted by a display stand showing this:
In case you can't read the print, it says "Cougars Prowl Ontario Again". The article details proof of a cougar's existence near, IIRC, Lake Erie.
Doc
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That's still pretty much the situation here in northern New York, which is very rural; not to mention rural New England and probably much of rural Quebec and Ontario.
The problem with varmints is, if you don't keep them away they will move into your homestead, cause damage, kill your chickens, etc. etc. I have to do an annual cleanup of squirrels and chipmunks around my house, because they will get into the house eventually and start chewing up things like the insulation off my house wiring. However, I do not make a point of going into the woods after them.
As far as major predators, we have two up here, coyotes and black bears. Well there's also bobcats and fishers (weasel family), but they are rare. Coyotes pretty much stay away from humans. I hear them occasionally and I think it's a good year when I actually see one, although we know they are all over the place...but they hunt rabbits, mice, the occasional sick deer, wild turkey, grouse.
Black bears are bumbling idiots but they can be unpredictable and dangerous. Black bears up here are not predators, they eat berries and grubs and garbage...they've learned to follow back-packers and car campers, raid garbage cans, they're a dangerous nuissance.
Personally, I would not shoot at a coyote or black bear unless I seriously meant to kill it, because it was threatening me, family or pets...I would otherwise prefer to just blow a few loud rounds in the ground in front of it's nose to scare it away. Let it know that it is not welcome and should go someplace else.
The idea of wounding a wild animal like that and letting it escape into the woods is just badly irresponsible.
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Lat spring there were cougar sightings here in Massachusetts in my town near Concord.....and tracks.......and lots of dead dear.......people get scared quite quickly about coyotes around here when they ought to worry about cougars.....
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This pretty much sums up my opinion of the proper protocol. And what I think of the moron that shot a cougar and chased the injured creature into the woods by himself with only a knife. What a tard. An asshole tard that shoots inedible animals that aren't even threatening him.
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There's been Mt. Lions sighted in my county last year by a former teacher, on two different occasions and other reports within 15 miles. But, there was proof that there are Mt. Lions in Ky. when a cub was struck and killed by a pickup truck and recovered. This was verified by the Game Department, as you can read here...
http://www.easterncougar.org/pages/beyondsightings.htm
you will need to click "Conformations" once on the first page.
http://www.easterncougar.org/pages/beyondsightings.htm
you will need to click "Conformations" once on the first page.