Safe but not top of line carbon steel recommendations for smaller knives

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Cardinal Knife

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Hey guys, I've been void of knife making for a year or so, but would like to try and get my groove back. I would like to try and pump out 7-8 knives for my friends and relatives for x-mas. I was thinking general use type blade similar to a bird and trout design. Most of these will never see the outdoors so do I stick with O1 (my preferred carbon steel) or is there a more cost efficient carbon that is suitable, yet reliable enough, should the knives make it into a survival type situation. I was thinking carbon so I could leave a rustic look similar to this

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But I'm not opposed to just sticking with 440c since some will most likely not maintain the carbon as needed.

Thanks Chris
 
Like butter, I don't even grind it befor heat treat any more. The only catch is that it does not come in thick stock. The stuff u sell is .072 and .090 thick.
 
I can say JT knives is right I picked up a box from him and this steel is great. It gets screeming sharp and would be perfect for your project.
 
1084 is cheap, comes in a variety of thickness and has the simplest heat treat possible.


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JeffreyFogleboch said:
1084 is cheap, comes in a variety of thickness and has the simplest heat treat possible.


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True, guess I forgot about that. Mind sharing your supplier? I get 1070 from admiral but I don't remember them carrying 1084


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You could always check out alpha knife supply if you don't want to go through Aldo. They have a bunch of steel in smaller quantities. awesome people to deal with.


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JTknives said:
Can't beat 15n20, its cheep, tough, easy to heat treat and gets wicked sharp.
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New 8670 is less expensive than 15N20 and available in more thicknesses. It has excellent toughness and holds a great edge.

Here is a video of a .100" chef knife cutting steel tubing:

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Chuck
 
No vid chuck, but thanks. I've purchased from you as well and u guys are very accommodating. Let me check out the comp and heat treat. May give u call later


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Sorry, I just made some space in my mailbox. I'm normally sitting at around $3 a pound for my Uddeholm 15n20 if you buy a good amount. I normally sell full boxes of 10 sheets for around $200 plus $25 shipping. Each box has 20 sheets that are 23.5x11.5 and 65+ pounds of steel. If your only wanting a few strips cut to your desired width then it will be a tiny bit more but not much. Right now my docket is full of orders for full boxes but if your wanting some strips I can have the wife pack them up for you.

15n20 is really nice steel, I have not personally used 8670 from AKS so I can't compare. But if we are posting pics of cutting metal with metal I have some of 15n20.

Cutting copper tubing
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Cutting aluminum
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Cutting a dime in half
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Last but not least cutting some steel angle iron. Up to this point the edge was not damaged at all from cutting the other metals. The edge is very thin at around .005 behind the cutting edge.
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The blade was damaged from cutting the steel but that's to be expected considering this blade was at 62hrc if I remember correctly
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If your wanting more info on 15n20 I made a post on here about it not to long ago.
 
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I'm normally sitting at around $3 a pound for my Uddeholm 15n20 if you buy a good amount. I normally sell full boxes of 10 sheets for $200 plus $25 shipping. Each box has 20 sheets that are 23.5x11.5 and 65+ pounds of steel. If your only wanting a few strips cut to your desired width then it will be a tiny bit more but not much. Right now my docket is full of orders for full boxes but if your wanting some strips I can have the wife pack them up for you.
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I was comparing, new 8670 with new 15N20 pricing. The 8670 is new, spheroidized annealed, ready to be used and $5 per pound.

JT, if you are selling large quantities of 15N20 shouldn't you buy a supplier membership?

Chuck
 
I don't sell all that much, a few boxes here and there. Also I did not know I need a "supplier membership" my current paid membership says I can sell and have access to the forsale area. I am a knife maker that happens to get 15n20 and pass it along to other knife makers. Yes my steel is "used" I get it from large bandsaw blades that are made by Uddeholm that would be why it's cheaper. I was not trying to step on any toes around here just offer good steel to other fellow knife makers.
 
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