Safe Food Carry/Storage Methods

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While reading stories on animal attacks etc.I thought how does one carry a food supply on their person without becoming a chew toy for a bear,or cat etc. Do Ziplock bags or other similar bags do an adequate job of containing food scents to prevent attracting hungry animals to say your backpack.What about factory sealed foods like jerky,MRE's blah,blah etc.?Does one have to invest in say a a vacuum sealing machine to be safe? Thanks in advance.
 
Good question. I'll tell ya what I've read, heard or experienced on the subject.

A grizzly bear can smell you doing game chores on your kill from over 5 miles away and can be there to help within 15 minutes or so. Many of them are trained to come to the sound of a rifle shot.

A dog can smell drugs wrapped in plastic and buried in coffee. Bears and pigs have better noses than most dogs. Not sure about the cats.

Cut yourself and everything downwind knows about it.

I did an experiment once with some bacon grease, which is a fairly common odor on humans, and is also a fairly strong odor. Anyway, I placed some grease on plastic wrap and bundled it in a couple of layers. Then I put gloves on and placed it in a ziploc bag. Then I placed it in another ziploc, pushed the air out of it just like I did the first one and sealed it up. Then I placed the package in a tuperware container and sealed it just like you're supposed to. My wife is still pissed that the bear tore the container up to get at the grease. Maybe the bear smelled the grease when we cooked the bacon and started our way then. But I placed the container well away from camp and wedged it in the Y of a tree. The next afternoon I went over to check it out.

You might give it a try the next time you're out and about. Maybe if you draw all of the air out of the package and wrap it up a few times and place it in foil packet or something.

There are several articles that I've read on how to store food while in bear country (up a tree and away from camp) and how to dispose of garbage (bury about 200 yards upwind of camp). They say that the freeze dried foods may not attract bears or other predators to you, but I don't have any first hand experience with it.

Maybe someone can share what they know about it. My knowledge, other than my experiment is from reading the newspaper or listening to hunters stories round a fire or have read them in bowhunting magazines.

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if they smell human and come to see what goodies they got.:D
 
Years ago, I used to backpack in the mountains in bear country. The general sloppiness of most camper/hikers had habituated the bears to seeing humans as a signal that easy pickin's were on hand.

We were strongly advised to carry all food in a separate bag and to be prepared to dump and run if a bear became "interested." In a group, we split the food between several bags, the idea being that we would dump one and run, hoping to keep the rest. I never was part of a group that had to use this tactic, but I talked to people who had felt forced to "dump."

At night, we put all food -- and anything else with a strong smell (other than us!), such as tooth paste -- in a "bear bag" suspended from a rope over limb: 12' above the ground; 6' from the trunk of the tree. Some campsites had steel cables between two large trees to facilitate hanging "bear bags." Any food waste was burned or placed well-away from sleeping areas. (bag; rope; "rock" sock to help throw rope over limb)

We once tried to advise a guy not to store food (including bacon) in the trunk of his Olds 88 convertable at King's Canyon N.P.. He thought we were "stooopid." Next A.M., we got to see what was left of his car. Mr. bear (and friends?) went throught the top, ripped out the rear seat, and had dinner. He/she/they then relieved themselves inside the car. Their claws didn't do the red leather tuck'n'roll much good either.
 
Hehe, yeah, they're a fun lovin bunch aren't they? I saw a similar sight at Yosemite years ago. And you havn't lived until you've slept on the ground and you wake up to see a bear stepping over ya on it's way to the trash area.:eek: :D
 
I can't speak from actual bear experience. I've not yet had a bear problem"Knock on Wood". Also I have never had a good spot to hang
a bear bag. Only had very small tree's or Very Big ones. We made the best stash we could, but never bear safe! I have always wondered if an alarm system might be worth the weight and trouble. Either a break wire style or a proximity alarm. Many of these units are very small and light weight.
If you know a bear or other large animal is in the area of your food stash you might then have an opportunity to convince it to move and leave your food alone. Or if you are really back in the sticks and "packing" you have other options. <><
 
Frediver, often we selected campsites based solely on the fact that there was a suitable tree limb we could reach with the "rock" sock.

If in a grove of really big pines, I don't know for sure what I'd do. Perhaps a suitable walking staff (or two people boosting a third up against the tree trunk) would let you rig a "clothes line" arrangement between two big trees and high enough that a bear couldn't reach. In any event, it would be out of the reach of "mini-bears" and racoons. I had a %$&$# Golden Mantle Ground Squirrel eat a hole in my first Kelty in less than five minutes -- to get at a bag of GPRP.
 
THAT Kelty got patch, repatched, and plumb wore out years ago. No to mention that padded waist belts were unknown back then. What a difference!!

BTT, they do sell heavy plastic containers that are supposedly "bear-proof," but they're far too heavy for backpacking.
 
thanks for the great responses.Eye opening to say the least :eek:
Something to consider for sure.Thanks
 
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