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Sage II - question, comparison

It's a real toss up between the GB (M4 looks great for the job) and the Pacific SE. I must admit these are two knives that I haven't given a second glance until you highlighted them. The GB looks like a real workhorse, and the Pacific looks like a LOT of knife for the money.

Failing that, does anyone know of a good fixed neck knife in M4, or maybe s110v? My current knife is in A2 and spends a lot of time on my stones, which is what I'm trying to get away from.
 
zlorf said:
It's a real toss up between the GB (M4 looks great for the job) and the Pacific SE. I must admit these are two knives that I haven't given a second glance until you highlighted them. The GB looks like a real workhorse, and the Pacific looks like a LOT of knife for the money.

Failing that, does anyone know of a good fixed neck knife in M4, or maybe s110v? My current knife is in A2 and spends a lot of time on my stones, which is what I'm trying to get away from.
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Those are the two best options you could consider IMHO. You can't go wrong. I will give you the standard forum advice and tell you to get both! :D
 
cujobob said:
JDavis is a more knowledgeable Cutlerylover (YouTube guys). Everyone seems to love him.
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The former of those two had some decent information, but got damn I've seen soap operas with less drama. The second of those two, I see more beer drinking, dessert eating, and video game playing than knife talk so there's better sources for that.


zlorf said:
It's a real toss up between the GB (M4 looks great for the job) and the Pacific SE. I must admit these are two knives that I haven't given a second glance until you highlighted them. The GB looks like a real workhorse, and the Pacific looks like a LOT of knife for the money.

Failing that, does anyone know of a good fixed neck knife in M4, or maybe s110v? My current knife is in A2 and spends a lot of time on my stones, which is what I'm trying to get away from.
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For your purposes, you can do better than a Sage or Sebenza. And between the Sage and Sebenza, the Sage is not a poor man's Sebenza as some call it as the only similarity between them is that they are framelocks and have a piece of sharpened steel between two slabs of gray titanium. Have owned both and like both...don't own the Sage anymore.

I believe for pure cutting ability and ergonomics, Spydercos are unmatched. You'd be well served with a GB.
 
I ended up with a GB, GEC "Farm and field" Bullnose for some old timey appeal and will probably get the H1 Pacific Salt SE too. Thanks to all you fellas.
 
cujobob said:
And for that comment about JDavis being told not to post in a BF circle, that holds no weight. Many of the most knowledgeable users in the knife community have been banned from BF. Nobody wants to hurt the business of companies putting out poor products (not talking about CRK). JDavis is a more knowledgeable Cutlerylover (YouTube guys). Everyone seems to love him.
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It is darn near impossible to get banned from this place, and any that has been deserved it. Just because one acts like and thinks they know everything doesn't mean one does. I can't think of any of the "most knowledgeable" members you mention thats been banned that knew a fraction of what they thought they did.

And yes, one YouTuber(that doesn't know much) has an agenda. You don't know the whole story on that one, and this isn't the place for it.
 
Hi Zlorf,

Welcome to our forum.

In defense of the Sebenza, Chris Reeve is one of the best the industry has to offer, worldwide. His tolerances are very close and he is not likely to pick a poor steel, or process it poorly.

sal
 
zlorf said:
I ended up with a GB, GEC "Farm and field" Bullnose for some old timey appeal and will probably get the H1 Pacific Salt SE too. Thanks to all you fellas.
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Congrats ! I think the GB will be great for what you desribed. Its a great hard use knife at a great price.
The GEC "Farm and Field" series are good knives as well(IMO). I think you'll enjoy both.

Sal Glesser said:
Hi Zlorf,

Welcome to our forum.

In defense of the Sebenza, Chris Reeve is one of the best the industry has to offer, worldwide. His tolerances are very close and he is not likely to pick a poor steel, or process it poorly.

sal
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As always, great post, Sal :thumbup:
 
Ken44 said:
Congrats ! I think the GB will be great for what you desribed. Its a great hard use knife at a great price.
The GEC "Farm and Field" series are good knives as well(IMO). I think you'll enjoy both.

As always, great post, Sal :thumbup:
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Handsome is as handsome does. :thumbup: :)
 
Great choice!

H1 is a neat steel but be prepared to purchase a Tasman if you get a Pacific...they tend to come in groups!
 
Without question, the Sebenza is a beautiful thing, but... I require a Landrover, not a Lambo!

Now I have the GB in my hands, I cannot get over how much knife this is for the price. More workman-like designs in M4 would be great, I think.
 
I personally think what happened in jdavis's video was more due to the fact that it was continuous cutting and because he was using a cutting board. But honestly I can't be sure as none of the other knives he's put to that test have done that.
 
CRK 25 by a landslide. Not even comparable. The 25 is one of the nicest knives I've ever handled. The sage series is also nice, just too small for me.
 
The Sebenza 25 is decidedly "nicer", but I wanted the best utility tool for my job.

I would absolutely love a 25 to keep in my drawer, play with and admire its jewel-like qualities... If I had a different (more civilized) job I would probably love to carry it for my EDC cutting tasks too. For my job, however, I can't imagine any knife performing better than the GB. It's not too big or heavy. The blade is incredible - it handled compost sacks, canes and ties with ease for the last 2 days and it doesn't any further require sharpening by a long shot. Brilliant.
 
Not that I am sure if it matters at this point but one very popular video on YT criticized the Sebenza over the heat treatment of the titanium lock bar and the ball/detent system. Part of the criticism was that wear would be more than desirable on that type of lock. That particular criticism didn't hold much water given history has proven most of what was claimed as wrong. There are tons of people who have owned and carried and used every day older ATS or BG Sebs over a decade in which their usage makes clear that the Sebenza is probably the best folder ever developed to account for long-term wear of parts in friction from continuous usage. The usage of G5 ti alloy in itself is one of the finest materials that can withstand the stressors that a knife lock will see, and history has proven how well the Sebenza can do this.

As awesome as the Ti Sage is, the Sebenza sports an unusually impressive level of fit and finish which largely puts it in its own class of production folders that feel more like a high-end custom in fit and finish. With that said, the Ti Sage carries a quality that cannot be ignored and compares to other top-notch frame locks like the Kershaw Titanium ZDP Cyclone, ProTech TR-3 Integrity, and Benchmade Mini Skrimish.
 
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