SAK vs Leatherman

^ ah thank you! My keychain is fairly light anyways, I only carry my car and house key on it plus the little SAK

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I think some cars are more prone to it. For example, old oldsmobiles with the notoriously weak lock cylinders. My keyring weighs about 2kg, and its not a problem. I love that keyless fob system!

My father-in-law has a mini-cooper that has a chip-key remote, you lock the fob into the dash, he was told to keep the keyring light as its not fun to replace the latch that holds the remote in place if it breaks off.
 
IMO, it depends on what you need the pliers for. I usually use my pliers to hold a small nut while tightening a bolt from the other side, hold onto and/or bend small metal things (like a key-ring, small bar spring, or the edge of sheet metal), or to get leverage on something I can only fit a finger or two on (like lifting a small drainage grate). If you use the saw a lot, the SAK's saws are better than their same-size equivalent Leatherman counterparts. Depending on your usage of the pliers, you might be able to get away with a Leatherman Squirt PS4 on your key-chain, and keep the SAK in your pocket.

Also, be aware that as you add more stuff, weight becomes more and more of an issue. I prefer my Juice S2 to my CS4 when I don't need a saw, awl, or corkscrew because of the weight. If I don't need pliers but still need a saw, I like my SAK Fieldmaster better than my CS4 because of the weight savings and much easier saw action on the SAK. The Leatherman's saws cut only on the pull stroke versus SAK's cutting in both directions... yes, it's noticeable if you use them a lot.
 
^ ah thank you! My keychain is fairly light anyways, I only carry my car and house key on it plus the little SAK

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With a rig like that (I have something similar) it's a piece of cake to just remove the car key when driving. That way there's never any weight hanging on the ignition system besides the key itself. It's how I do it.
 
Just picked up this beauty at my local pawn shop I was looking for something lighter instead of using my surge. It's very light and has many tools on it
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