SAK's, Multi-tools, Saws in the Woods

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Here are some of my favorite SAK's, multi-tools and saws for PSK's and hiking. Note that I view these as accessories to a larger fixed-blade knife in a palette of survival tools.

One mention on multi-knife/tools: keep it simple. It is all too easy to get gadget happy and buy tool that just has too many options. They get more expensive, heavier, and most importantly, harder and less comfortable to use. IMHO, anything past a four layer SAK is a waste. A Vic Fieldmaster has nine pivoting tools-- if you can't do it with that, you should have a tool box!

Victorinox Classic: I EDC one and have incorporated them into my kits. They are great for basic cutting chores, personal grooming and firesteel strikers. The toothpick and tweezers get regular use. They make a great paring with other knives or multitools that do not have a small blade or scissors. Perfect for necklace-based kits. My favorite has Stayglow scales. Variations on the the theme: alox scale models (minus tweezers and toothpick), whistle scale model (minus toothpick), Signature model with pen, and some with LED lights. Watch out for the ones with a magnetic Phillips driver that might stray your compass reading.

Leatherman Micra: next step up on the kit/EDC list. I EDC one with red scales and the scissors get a workout. Larger and heavier than the SAK Classic. I don't care for the tweezers-- they are are a little stiff for precision work like slinter removal, but they are there. Again, they make a good paring for larger tools or knives and an excellent pair of scissors. A little heavy for a necklace kit, but just fine for a pocket/keychain kit.


Victorinox Farmer: this is a great knife for including in a PSK. Makes a great pairing with a Classic or Micra as it doesn't have scissors, tweezers or small blade. You get a good size blade, saw, awl, screwdriver (read pry bar), can opener and bottle opener. Tough, inexpensive and light. Perfect for improvising-- the saw and awl take it far past the basic folding knife. This is the minimum I would carry for a hiking knife.

Victorinox Fieldmaster: my favorite SAK, with blades, saw, awl, screwdrivers, can and bottle openers, scissors, toothpick and tweezers. It has a package hook, which I've chalked up to a European thing or some hold-over to times when packages were wrapped with twine. I'd just as soon they left it off, but seeing that it is there, it can be used for tightening small line for lashing. The Fieldmaster is really a multi-tool at this stage. It is the same as the Huntsman, with a Phillips screwdriver rather than a corkscrew. I have one with Stayglow scales and it goes in my #1 PSK.

Wenger Evolock 16821: Wenger has made medium frame models with locking main blades for years and you don't see them mentioned much in this forum. This Evolock model is very similar to the Fieldmaster, but has the locking main blade.


Victorinox Trekker OH: I sold mine and I'm sorry I did. IMHO, this is a perfect one-tool choice for hiking and particularly day hiking. Vic now offers a plain edge version, although the serrated version works well for food prep and cutting line, which is most of the use it will get anyway. I'd like to see the saw blade lock and Stayglow scales-- it would be kind of ugly, but you could find it if dropped. Goes from good to prefect when paired up with a Classic.

Leatherman Wave: this is the Big Daddy of multi-tools for me. I use one at work and carry it in my EDC BOB with the bit kit. I think it is too heavy for general hiking. I could see it as a one-tool option, but I'd rather spread the weight out to redundancy and other PSK items if on foot. It comes to the top of the list when you have mechanical gear to deal with: add an outboard, ATV, or mountain bike and this becomes a perfect tool.

Leatherman Skeletool CX: I have EDC'd one now for a few months and I use it every day at work. A little over 4 ounces and very handy with a wicked sharp knife blade. Not too big to carry in your pocket, but I use a nylon belt sheath. As with the Wave, there is a better case for carrying it when you have evil mechanical devices with you. Pair it up with a Micra to get all the little tools it doesn't have. If Leatherman could add a saw and/or scissors to this design, it would make a great woods rig. And adding tools would take away from the design too-- it's all compromise.

Leatherman Juice: I had one and sold it. The saw was just a little too thin for me to trust in a tight spot. Other than that, they are smaller and lighter. Get one with saw and scissors and you have a good pairing with a fixed blade knife and a do-all tool kit. I wish they would leave off the #$%^& corkscrews!

Silky Pocketboy saw: I have one and I'm a little ambivalent on this one. It is compact, but the blade isn't very long and it is heavy for its size. Comes with a nifty clear plastic case/holster than can hold more gear if you don't plan on using it often. The Silky saws do cut well, which is the point. IMHO, a small saw is best for cutting poles for shelter building, small firewood and improvising. You can cut larger diameter wood with a small saw by using multiple cuts and notching as you would with an axe, or cutting and breaking off the remaining wood, but that does mean a lot of work. The Silky saws have handles that will allow you to do a lot of work without making you hands raw-- a major failing with the knife and multi-tool saws.

Gerber Sportsman's Saw: this saw weighs just a bit over 3 ounces, which makes it a good choice for foot travel. It cuts well, but I have misgivings about the construction for survival use. It is just too much thin light plastic for my taste. It has a much longer blade than the Silky saw and is lighter, but has the trade-off on durable construction. I haven't broken one or heard of someone doing so. Cheap and readily available, you can get them at hardware and sporting goods stores for $12-$15.

Kershaw folding saw: same as the Bahco Laplander. This is my favorite for a folding saw, but at the maximum size and weight that I would consider for hiking-- 6.4 ounces and a 7" blade. It cuts very well, with a handle that won't turn your paws into hamburger and you can get two hands on it. The blade locks open and closed with a simple button/liner lock latch. Sits well in a corner of a backpack. I have paired one up with a mora knife and a couple ranger bands and a small pouch-based PSK for a compact grab-and-run survival lit. Another option I worked out was to use a cable style key ring and add a whistle, fire starter, compass, and LED flashlight through the lanyard hole on the saw. Add your favorite fixed blade knife and you have the start of a PSK that will provide shelter, fire and plenty of room for improvising. Not too expensive at around ~$25, but harder to find.

About axes: there have been many spirited debates about using axes for survival. My view of wilderness survival gear is aimed at foot travel, where weight and size rule. Axes can be very useful tools in a survival situation, but IMHO, an effective axe is too big and too heavy to use for foot travel. The smaller axes, which I have always called hatchets, are fine for wood working and splitting kindling, but are sorry tools for use with green wood. They bounce and slip too easily and offer as much danger to the user as they do to the intended target. The chances of doing real damage to yourslf with a folding saw are slim compared to the ugly wounds from mis-amied hatchets. I have a 14" Fiskars that is about as small and light as I would bother with and to me, a "real" axe is about 30" long and a two-handed tool. In a real survival scenario, I wouldn't be unhappy to find myself with a small axe, but I wouldn't look forward to hauling it up and down mountains for years with no real use other than pounding in a tent peg. I try to practice leave no trace, so my cooking is usually on a stove and campfires are limited to established fire rings and downed wood. I also hike in areas where campfires are banned a good part of the season. All of these factors bring me to the conclusion that folding saws are most useful survival tools than small axes. YMMV.
 
excellent observations, thanks very much for sharing them here.

on my last outing a few days ago, i used a blunt impact tool more than my small axe (19" wetterlings hunters axe) to smash dry pine limbs off of the trees. i found a stiff kick also worked well on the lower ones. i hardly touched the axe actually, just for one or two cuts that could have been handled just as well with the folding saw i had.

i like to have an axe in terms of "bushcraft"-which is much less stressed and more focused on the arts and crafts side of the woods.

in a "survival" situation i am a fan of the saws. you can keep a good hot fire going with wrist sized and smaller wood, which even something as small as an SAK saw will take care of nicely. to me, survival is similar to your definition, where there is a need to travel quickly on foot. this means that weight is near the top of the list when choosing tools and gear...and the heavier things will be left behind if they won't be used very often.

i enjoy axes and hatchets alot, but for weight vs utility, it is difficult to tote one around when speed and weight are a concern.
 
Thanks for the review and advice. I do not get out for overnights as much as I would like. I am fortunate to live near a wooded lot that the owner lets me take off dead falls. I take the pup out for a walk most mornings. She can go off leash and explore while I practice wood gathering skills.

I find that a saw is the most useful and after that a Gerber's pocket ax. For a saw, I have a Wally World special, which is a knock off of a Silky. It requires a lot of sharpening and is good for about 1 large branch. I use the pocket ax (hatchet) more like a knife. I grip the head and use it like an ulu to shave kindling. It is also handy for limbing and chopping small branches. I baton with it to split wood.

I agree with what you and Siguy had to say. The fire does not know how big the log is, where it came from or how you chopped it up. Arm sized dead wood makes a great fire. For shelter construction and other survival tasks, I think a saw will handle most of it with help from the pocket ax and a knife.

I am looking for a new saw and will check out that Kershaw.

Thanks
 
Great review. It has helped me decide on my next multi-purposed tool.

Thanks.
 
good stuff dale, I admit I agree with ya. I find something like the Huntsman or Camper models to be great as well, I have a oht fireman model that I took the serrations off and its grrrreat:D

But yeah, fiskars is another saw you should look at, the telescopic models feel sturdier for sure.
 
excellent observations, thanks very much for sharing them here......

i like to have an axe in terms of "bushcraft"-which is much less stressed and more focused on the arts and crafts side of the woods. ....


I agree. Axes are great for wood-working, roughing out carvings, notching, etc.
 
I wrecked the big blade on my Camper (never, EVER stick the blade into a shredder-the shredder wins) so I have been looking for a new SAK. I'll look at the Fieldmaster. Have the wave already, along with the micra.
 
I love the OHT, the farmer(perfect multitool IMO), and my charge Ti. I want a skeletool something fierce, but never seem to buy one when I see em.
 
Good review! I think everyone has their own personal preferences for weight considerations and what not. Personally, I edc a Leatherman Surge and don't even notice it is there. The scissors rock and it is just a great 11.5 ounce tool! :D
I agree with the saw mentality too. Very quick and effective. So far, I love my Gerber saw! When I first got it, I thought it might be too flimsy, but once I used it, this thing is pretty damn solid. I can't see it breaking unless you smashed it between two rocks on purpose!! :D
 
I think I'd like to add to the list here, and make the decisions harder on everyone!

My favorite all around outdoor oriented SAK is the Outrider. like the famous Rucksack, you get a locking blade, long and useful saw blade, corkscrew (I USE it to begin with, and it holds the jeweler's screwdriver, too!), awl and can/bottle/screw openers. What it adds is a phillips (end opening, so it is like a screwdriver and not a T handle), and scissors. I hvae to say it over and over again, the vic scissors are superb, amazing, endlessly useful tools! they are ambidextrous, and you have NO IDEA how many times i've made us of that when bandaging myself. If you take care of them a bit they cut hair well, and they make handy additions to a lot of chores.

It does make the large vic frame a 4 layer, but I won't argue with that, I think it fits the hand better.


Axes are... strange. I most often have a cold steel trail hawk around when I go out- I resurfaced the hammer poll into a proper FLAT waffle face and reground the edge, it's true that it doesn't add much to a lot of wood chores but up in the sierra it can come in pretty handy for some of the small diameter hardwoods. And, I have this bad habit of throwing hawks daily :D

the BG small forest axe is an excellent tool. I'd rather have a proper felling axe for homesteading, but if my wilderness needs tend towards taking down medium sized wood, this is about the smallest that will really start working. Anyting smaller sucks for splitting firewood compared to a baton, and the SFA is just about right for notching if you want to rig sturdy semi permanent or even permanent shelter.

Note that all this comes from my odd mentality regarding survival- I tend to think in bigger terms than overnighting in the woods or backpacking accidents. I can plan for all of those, but a lot of our focus is on the family or multifamily group I see no reason not to plan for 3 weeks or 3 months instead of 3 days :)
 
I', a huge sak and multi fan....before I joine BF a vic huntsman and a LM wave and a Buck 112 where the only knives I owned...
I use the wave exclusively at work....Pliers are an essential in my job when not at work it's in my bag

I like to edc a sak however. I lile the super tinker for town life.. scissors and a phillips head come in real handy

but come woods time the vic rucksack and the farmer are my 2 favorites

just made a bowdrill set tonight actually, and cut and carved out all the parts from a solid branch of sycamore using only a vic rucksack.

if I was carrying a nice stout 7inch style blade i'd bring a rucksack and be good for a 3 day sojern.. if I was going to carry a smaller fixed blade I'd opt for the farmer..

on a day hike rucksack, on the person and a scandi in the bag...

I'm hard on my gear and I've ruined alot of saks... I need to learn the ways of the force so I can keep'em going strong....
 
I have both saws and axes/hatchets, and to be honest, my mood more than anything decides which leaves the door with me.

I like the saws on my Vics, and on my LM Wave, for when space is an issue. I also like my Gerber lockback saw, my Fiskers, and my Spydersaw.

But I also like my Fiskers Hatchet and Axe, and for small but though and sharp, my Greco Hatch-it.

Each has their limits, mostly being the operator. :)
 
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