Sal Could we please get a Tuff Sprint Run

Not at all trying to start an argument. Just posting what I've read about how tough Maxamet is as a tool steel just like 3v.
Love to learn more about everything including these steels.


CPM 3V steel has the following steel composition (Note the high amount of vanadium content which produces some of the smallest and hardness carbides in knife steel.)

0.80% Carbon
7.50% Chromium
2.75% Vanadium
1.30% Molybdenum

Yet maxamet has 6% Vanadium and 10% tungsten.
 
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I'd love to see a Tuff sprint run. I missed out on them the first time around.
 
A sprint Tuff does not interest me.

But the original isn't bad. There are just many other Spydercos that interest me more.
 
I traded my Tuff to Barman. I've still have sellers remorse quite often about that trade quite often. I do like my K2 a lot tho.

The one thing I didn't like about the about the Tuff that kept me from buying it for quite a while was the Big choil.

I would have liked .5 of cutting length instead of the .5 choil. The choil on a sprint run, if it is made, is still going to be on the knife tho.....Ed Schempp,

the designer, always has a choil on his knives. I wish the choil would be about 1/3 the size of the original choil.
 
I love choils. They are great for saving your fingers when the blade falls or the lock fails.
I'd rather my finger pinched than cut
 
Sprint run Tuff should come with tough steel. Any of this should be a good contender

Micromelt CD#1
ZWEAR
Vanadis 4E
 
Just thought I would give this a bump. I'd really love a tuff, so hoping to keep the interest going!
 
Surfingringo said:
I don't think that maxamet properly fits the theme of the Tuff, plus it would be extremely expensive. The Tuff was never a cheap knife and with a big slab of Maxamet it would likely be over $300 street value. I like the knife and I'd buy a sprint, but I'd rather have it in 3v or Cruwear.
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ShepardCC said:
Not at all trying to start an argument. Just posting what I've read about how tough Maxamet is as a tool steel just like 3v.
Love to learn more about everything including these steels.


CPM 3V steel has the following steel composition (Note the high amount of vanadium content which produces some of the smallest and hardness carbides in knife steel.)

0.80% Carbon
7.50% Chromium
2.75% Vanadium
1.30% Molybdenum

Yet maxamet has 6% Vanadium and 10% tungsten.
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Not trying to put words in anyone's mouth, or get into any type of argument ...
Hopefully only to shed some light on what I think may be going on.

I "think" my initial thought after reading your OP was similar to Surfringo comments (at least as I interpreted when I read).

Maxamet has VERY high wear resistance. You do not increase wear resistance and toughness (push/shove - one up the other down). I would not consider Maxamet to be high in "toughness".

In my mind, 3V exudes the character of toughness to a MUCH greater degree (from a performance perspective). Heck in my mind CPM10v (aka A11), D2, M4, A2, and CRUWEAR (mentioned by Surfringo) are all "tougher" than Maxamet (at least in my mind). If toughness primary goal, perhaps S7 (but I think that would be giving away too mush in the edge retention category, and also corrosion resistance).

The TUFF in 3V was "proper"ly done in it origin :-)

Some people just were not tough-enough to handle opening & closing it with such a short lock-bar, and the model fell out of grace with the main-stream knife flickers. Many, I believe, simply did not have the patience or purpose to use and appreciate this Schempp design.

These are simply my opinions, and as we all know everyone has there own ... ;-)
 
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