Sal, how about a combo edge but serration up front?

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Grapevine

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This has come up a couple of times in other subforums on BF, but I thought I'd make a request here because Spyderco is my favorite brand and Sal is into function over form.

If you think about it, the serrated edge doesn't do push cuts well but excels in slicing cuts. And when you do push cuts you tend to want to do it with the area of the blade closest to the handle in order to get the best leverage. Slicing you tend to do with the curved part of the blade up front.

Most of the manufactured combo blade knives on the market put the serrations in the back and the plain edge up front, which is the opposite of how they'd best perform. Combo edges can be awkward enough, but this established backwards design makes them even more awkward. I don't buy combo edges for this reason.

I've had a Swiss Army knife where they put the serration up front, and that was much more effective. AG Russell also agrees with this idea when he designed his sailor's Seamaster knife with the marlin spike.

How about it Sal? Something like a Calypso 3 or flat grind Delica with serration up front and plain edge behind. Pretty please?
 
I love combo edges and might like to feel this , but if you want to do some percise cutting you need the plain edge to be at the top so you can finess with the tip . Also i use Combo edges for work and i find having the serrations at the bottom give me nice controll when i have to use them to cut plastic straps and tough stuff. And the plain edge tip cuts paper or tape and My apple... Just my thoughts...

Sixheads
 
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I dunno Grapevine's idea sounds good to me a small portion of chisel grind (like on full SE models) at the tip and then 50/50 serr/plain but with the serration at the front. that way you can still do finesse cuts with the tip but your serrations are where they should be for slicing and you can still precision whittle/cut with the base.
 
Upfront I must say that I'm not a fan of combo blades anyway, so that's the grain of salt you have to take in my opinion.

I understand the desire for a curved section of serrations, but leaving an unserrated portion at the base of the blade seems even less useful to me than the reverse. I'd rather just have a full SE blade.
 
Sal,

IMHO, the serrations toward the front is a very good idea for a user. My SAK version of the type is among the most useful. Please give it a try, even if it's a sprint run.

Chris:):):)
 
I'd love to try it.

Honestly I prefer full SE blades because Spyderco often leaves a small PE portion near the tip that excels for detail work. Maybe 1/2" of PE, then 2" SE, then 1 1/2" PE again?
 
Josh K said:
I'd love to try it.

Honestly I prefer full SE blades because Spyderco often leaves a small PE portion near the tip that excels for detail work. Maybe 1/2" of PE, then 2" SE, then 1 1/2" PE again?
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thats almost exactly what I was thinking 1/2-1/4" chisel plain and then split the remainder between SE and PE with the serration at the tip. I would probably buy one even though I don't normally like serrated knives but honestly thats mostly because of where they are.
 
I have been all over this idea since the swiss army knives and the Busse mojo's. As many different knives and versions of knives that Spyderco has one the has to be worth trying this on. I manually "altered" a Kershaw like this and I loved it. The only problem was my serrations were "V" and not curved so they tended to catch more than slice. PLEASE Sal, try it once so I don't ugly up more of my knives.
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I like the Byrd Robin , A good amount of PE but not to much and then Se , But the Handels are a little to small.

Sixheads
 
+1 on this, have had this thought in the past, glad I'm not the only one. Just make sure to leave 1/2 inch of PE at the tip for precision work. Would be awesome on the Millie..
 
I'd not only TRY it, but also BUY it.

Anyone who has used the SAKs designed that way will be amazed at the utility.

The serrations BELONG on the end. Not for looks, that's for sure, but for a cut where you have to REACH to cut, the serrations will do it when the plain slips.

And WHITTLING usually takes place near the handle.

Do it do it do it do it.

:D
 
Seeing as how Sal pretty much introduced the world to the joy of serrations, I'm sure that he has considered having a CE knife with the serrations up front. I think it is a neat idea and I'd like to have one.

However, he probably hasn't done it because he has figured that it won't sell well.
 
Not sure but I'd ...guess... that the serrations are put on after the blade is completed.
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Maybe a removable bladed model could be held against the serrating drum cutter in the FRONT ???
 
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