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Charlie Mike

Charlie Mike

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Why don't you make a Salt with partial Ti liners? I'm not a fan of purely FRN handles.
 
I don't know for sure, but I would guess because of tooling cost & weight. If you take a look at the Salt lines specs such as a Salt Saver (Basically a Delica 3 with H1 blade) & a Pacific Salt (Basically an Endura 3 with H1 blade), you'll notice the Salt version is noticably lighter (2.0 oz/3.0 oz) vs (2.5 oz/3.6 oz).

Also, I would think a folder W/O any liners will clean easier by running it under the sink (Less chance of "stuff" getting caught in between liners & that).

Again, I don't know for sure, but that's why I think they do it that way.
 
Well, isn't the idea of the whole Salt/H1 line of folders is of use in near-sea environments with little to no maintenance? Adding liners will make the knives more prone to rust, especially in places where it's hard to clean (more so if the liners are nested)...
 
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Maybe a Sage2 Ti with a H1 blade would interest some, or a Military Ti with H1.
 
Nifelheim said:
Well, isn't the idea of the whole Salt/H1 line of folders is of use in near-sea environments with little to no maintenance? Adding liners will make the knives more prone to rust, especially in places where it's hard to clean (more so if the liners are nested)...
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Good point but titanium can't rust so not a prob with Ti liners,
I'd love to see some with Ti liners :D
 
Great idea. The price of the knife would jump up to about $150 street just because you're not a fan of 'purely FRN handles.'
 
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I'd happily pay.
 
But will you buy enough of them at that price for Sal to recover the tooling cost? It would probably take a few of thousand pieces to do so.
 
Oops. Bummer dude.
 
I would like to see it done the other way around, with some of the current knives like the Manix 2, Caly 3 and the Barong offered with all of the metal parts made from titanium and H1 steel.

It would not be cheap, but I love having a completely rust-proof knife.

I also like the full FRN handles on my Pacific Salts and my Endura 3's, but would like to have a really robust H1 steel folding knife as well for another carry option.
 
yablanowitz said:
But will you buy enough of them at that price for Sal to recover the tooling cost? It would probably take a few of thousand pieces to do so.
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No dude, it's easy.

Just put the expensive titanium into the handles. It's magic! No extra research & development, initial tooling costs, CNC diagrams, or engineering needed.
 
symphonyincminor said:
Great idea. The price of the knife would jump up to about $150 street just because you're not a fan of 'purely FRN handles.'
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Probably not that much, look at the price difference between the Delica 3 and 4.

I'm not a fan of liners on my Salts. The first thing I noticed was how thin they were and I loved it. Perfect IWB knives.
 
Machining titanium costs more, not to mention the cost of the material itself. New screws would be needed for the clip [no more barrel bolt], along with more titanium for the clip itself. Would it be pinned or screw construction? Screws would have be either be: titanium, treated to be rustproof, or made of H1 [is that even possible?]. New molding would be needed even if they used the D4 FRN mold [different name on the handles].

They would have to do this for the Salt 1, Pacific Salt, and the Atlantic Salt... or a whole new model altogether.

That's a lot of work for a slightly more rigid handle. Salts are primarily targeted towards people around salt water and humid environments. What would you be doing in the water that demands more rigidity in your knife handle?

Sal has said repeatedly that the pivot or blade is the first to go on FRN knives, not the handle. Someone must have the pictures of that poor, bent Salt that Kristi posted here.

Street price on a Pacific Salt is around $70... with all those changes it'd certainly be above $125 street price. And this is a knife work working folks... which is why Spyderco should keep the knife as simple and cost effective as possible.

And I agree with you that they are the absolute perfect IWB knife out there... absolutely nothing beats it for jogging, biking, or exercise. Or a beach knife. Or a 'lounging around the house in your pajamas' knife. :) A Salt 1 was my first Spyderco and I've gone through 3 of them [lost 2, one unknown and one at the beach]. I almost considered buying some junky $10 throwaway after I lost the 2nd one, but the extra outlay of cash it worth it for such a versatile knife.

Maybe a linerless G-10 version? No upfront $30K cost for FRN tooling and they can use existing Salt clips, barrel bolts, pins, and locks.
 
Simple solution, pick up the Salt of your choice and have it rebuilt with titanium limers. I'd recommend Steve Rice (STR), he has his own forum in the Makers section here and does excellent work, as shown on this Atlantic he did for me with stabilized Birdseye Maple scales over ti liners...

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They could be made on the D4 and E4 platforms. Modify the blade shape with a hollow ground and add in titanium liners.
 
I would just be happy if they made a Salt 1 with screw construction. I have a little play in my Salt 1 and I can't do anything about it. I'd be willing to pay $10-$20 more for that but I don't think Ti Liners are needed.
 
FRN is tough stuff, it doesn't need liners. If you use the knife properly, you won't have any problems.

I prefer thin lightweight handles on a EDC folder.

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gasp 5.56! You have a non US made knife?! Just yankin ya.. :)

I was just thinking, i'd like an H1 made 2.5 to 3.5 in. blade length fixed blade neck knife.
 
Jake Bauer said:
gasp 5.56! You have a non US made knife?! Just yankin ya.. :)
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Contrary to popular belief, I do own some, but I am very particular where the money goes.

In this case USA/Japan. It's the non-US allied country that begins with "C" that I choose not to support if I have a choice. :thumbup:

Let's stay on topic though, this is not a forum where I can keep it real.;)
 
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