Sam Lurquin, JS ~ Maximus

That is just savage-looking! You also really caught all the detail in that shot, Caleb. Nice pic!
 
The Virginian: I'm not sure i could educate you on the difference, that's because in the art world (that is!) those "differences" are subtle, and the overall perception is guided by many factors.
Caleb is a Master in his field and in his journey he will explore infinite possibilities, some of those will make ring my cords more than the others, and of course one technique will fit the bill in one case and not necessarily in every scenario.
Oversimplifing i could just tell you that one picture looks to me "opened" and deep, letting the knife breath its athmosphere, while the other i feel as more "busy", enclosing the knife which itself has some shapes which are more complicated to follow...

On a completely different ground, i enjoied very much the harpoon clips from Nick, Jason and Sam, but these days it looks like there is not other blade shape option around (i'm exaggerating of course)!! well, i'm not liking too much the crowd of the harpoon blades, but i couldn't explain (or educate anybody) why some of them are beautiful and the others not, the differences are very subtle but the overall look is immediate generating a love/hate/indifference reaction in each one of us.
In the end of the day we are here to share our opinions, and listening to others feedbacks, aren't we?
 
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stezann said:
On a completely different ground, i enjoied very much the harpoon bowies from Nick, Jason and Sam, but these days it looks like there is not other blade option around (i'm exaggerating of course)!! well, i'm not liking too much the crowd of the harpoon blades, but i couldn't explain (or educate anybody) why some of them are beautiful and the others not, the differences are very subtle but the overall look is immediate.
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Stezann,

Imagine a skilled and vicious back cut using a Harpoon clip. ;)

Doug
 
I remember someone actually did cut an hanging rope with a back cut, i don't remember if it was an harpoon or a regular clip...surely it was sharp:thumbup:
 
I remember Daniel Prentice(sp ?) did a free hanging rope back cut on a vid he posted.
Whatever happened to him I don't know.
Just haven't seen him around lately.

Doug
 
If i remember correct, Jerry Fisk mentioned he was able to back cut a rope with one of his knives.
Maybe we should start a new thread on clips
 
stezann said:
The Virginian: I'm not sure i could educate you on the difference, that's because in the art world (that is!) those "differences" are subtle, and the overall perception is guided by many factors.
Caleb is a Master in his field and in his journey he will explore infinite possibilities, some of those will make ring my cords more than the others, and of course one technique will fit the bill in one case and not necessarily in every scenario.
Oversimplifing i could just tell you that one picture looks to me "opened" and deep, letting the knife breath its athmosphere, while the other i feel as more "busy", enclosing the knife which itself has some shapes which are more complicated to follow...

On a completely different ground, i enjoied very much the harpoon clips from Nick, Jason and Sam, but these days it looks like there is not other blade shape option around (i'm exaggerating of course)!! well, i'm not liking too much the crowd of the harpoon blades, but i couldn't explain (or educate anybody) why some of them are beautiful and the others not, the differences are very subtle but the overall look is immediate generating a love/hate/indifference reaction in each one of us.
In the end of the day we are here to share our opinions, and listening to others feedbacks, aren't we?
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Thanks for your reply.

Yes, "we are here to share our opinions, and listening to others feedbacks."

And also hopefully to learn from what others. So I ask questions. Maybe I am not smart enough for you to educate me. But I still ask.

I was just trying to understand why you said that in one image the deep HDR is a bit too much, and it looks like a CG image more than showing the actual subject, but not in the other. I guess I can understand why "one picture looks to me "opened" and deep, letting the knife breath its athmosphere, while the other i feel as more "busy" would make you prefer one over the other. But I do not understand how or why that would make one look like a CG image more than showing the actual subject, but not the other.

Personally, I suspect that if I held the actual knives in hand, in both cases they would look significantly different than these images on my monitor. And I am perfectly OK with that.

But your comments indicate that you are looking for images that show the actual subject rather than a CG version. And I cannot understand why you would think that the second image does that, but the first does not. And I really do not understand for the life of me how whatever surrounds the knife - open, closed, whatever - could have a single thing to do with that.

If this is just something in your own brain that cannot be explained to others, fine. Then I will take that FWIW. However if there is some objective explanation for that which you can be communicate to others, I am still very interested in learning.
 
Both images and knives are dazzling. Caleb and I are both in a very subjective position: Some viewers clamor over dramatic images, some like absolute realism, and everyone likes clarity.

I've just photographed a Maximus (this one maybe?) and it has whole 'nuther spin. It will show up soon enough.

To some of the points here: It's hard to categorize 'why' something looks as it does. I certainly have learned long ago that my vision and my client's visions may differ. I have to agree THEY are right, despite my proven eye.... ;) (I have been educated on many occasions with a new perspective. Believe it.) The same happens for viewers, whether a client or not.

Good thread.

Coop
 
The Virginian said:
Personally, I suspect that if I held the actual knives in hand, in both cases they would look significantly different than these images on my monitor. And I am perfectly OK with that.
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Yes and no. Mostly no. Three dimensions will always present as significantly different than two, of course. But allowing for that - at least as it relates to the Maximus - in each image I have see of the knife, its essential nature shines through - whether it be pro pic, maker pic, or shaky poorly-lit Blade show pic.

And while I can't place both blades in your hands for you to confirm or dispute, I can at least show you both knives in-hand (the shaky, poorly-lit Blade show variety). ;)

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In any event, Paul has supplied some proper kit for this blade and Coop has placed both under his lens, so look for more perspective on this knife in the short term.
 
The Virginian: please don't get me wrong, i didn't mean you are not smart to understand, i actually mean i don't think i am able to, nor willing to try to modify your personal perception of those pictures.
Cg in itself is not a bad thing, and a total "unreal" scenario effect in one case, to me, fits better than a hyper real loaded typical knife shot background.
It is a pity we are dragging this in "point of rapier" both because english is not my language and I'm always risking to say something in a bad way, and because I'm sure that in person this could have been more easily a nice and productive chat.
How i'd like being with you at some knifeshow!!!! :)
 
Greatly admire your photography sir! nicely captured creating an almost 3d look to it with the lighting play.

And Roger, thanks for that image, I would not have imagined that knife being as large as it actually is! wow !
G2
 
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