San Mai Damasteel

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I would like to make a knife from San Mai Damasteel. Outer jacket in Odins Heim damasteel, inner core from 52100. But I can't find anyone who makes this.

I am just a hobby maker who makes an occasional blade for me. So if I buy the raw materials, is there anyone who can forge weld this together so I can make my rough blade and send it to a provider here that can heat treat and temper it?

I get these crazy ideas, and do not have the ability to do some of it.

Feel free to contact me with a service like this.

Larry
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Just go to Devins website in his signature and you can read about it
 
OK, I guessed that who was answering me.

Went to the website, saw all the pretty stainless damascus.

The question is; Is there a stainless core I could pair with a fancy pattern stainless damascus and make a nice, heat treatable and be good for all cutting projects, blade from?

If so, could Devin make such a San Mai steel and maybe even HT it for me?

Larry
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If there is a stainless damascus, Devin can make it. The issue is how much are you looking to spend?

I haven't bought damascus in a little while, but a fancy stainless damascus covering a high end core, but I would expect you to be paying several hundred dollars dorm a bar of steel. You call yourself a hobby maker. I'm not sure you want to risk several hundred dollars of steel. I would advise using some more simple steel for now, and then move on to either San mai or a carbon steel damascus
 
You can find suminagashi (damascus san-mai) with VG-10 core and stainless layered sides. It will not be a fancy pattern, just 20 or so layers each side.

Just to point out one thing you may have not thought of - even if you could make Damasteel san mai, it would cost about $400-500 a billet. Personally, I have no problem with Damasteel's edge as it is. It is high priced, though, and not a newer maker material normally.
 
Sometimes you can find a nice little deal though at local knife shows. I didnt have any cash on me at the time but I saw a couple pieces of damasteel big enough for a small pocketknife blade fer 10 bucks each. not bad
 
It would be real difficult to the point of nearly impossible to weld Damasteel with 52100 but since there are people who could do Zirconium/Stelltie sanmai or 3V/XHP Damacus around so don't take my word...
 
The materials can be welded just fine. The heat treat is different enough that the damasteel won't harden and will not show much contrast between layers. Any pattern will also stretch out and not look the same. Annealing is also a big problem.

I like 40cp, xhp, pd1, for a core with stainless damascus.

Hoss
 
DevinT said:
The materials can be welded just fine. The heat treat is different enough that the damasteel won't harden and will not show much contrast between layers. Any pattern will also stretch out and not look the same. Annealing is also a big problem.

I like 40cp, xhp, pd1, for a core with stainless damascus.

Hoss
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Thanks you for your clarification. That make a lot of sense.

I have only worked with 416/1095 which the only steel combo that I find having acceptable chance of failure.
I try 416 and 52100 before and it is significantly harder to successful welded.

Anyway, all I have is just a hydraulic press with newbie knowledge/experience.
 
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