Sarge Knives?

Peeps, you can advise the guy to stay away from cheap knockoff's, if that is your opinion, without resorting to sentence fragments such as "....you deserve crap." Sorry, just don't see that as necessary.
 
He was making an analogy about the OP asking for advice about a brand of knives and then getting upset when people informed him they appeared to be crap.
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I was asking for expierances with this knives not to get crap for them having knock-offs.
 
Hi Ben.

I have found the knife aficianados that "hang out" on this forum are among the most knowledgable anywhere. I've been "hanging out" here for about 10 years.

The resource of available knife knowledge here would take you decades to absorb on your own.

I have also found that a high percentage of them are knife industry insiders so their information is likely to be more accurate than other sources.

Their also seems to be high percentage, because of their historical knowledge and personal values, a high degree of ethics. (doing the right things for the right reasons).

With that in mind, let's switch tracks.

There are many types of companies that produce knives for us;

On one end, you have the Chris Reeve type of company. The owner / designer is very heavily involved in his product. Careful in design, accurate in manufacture, involved with their customer base and genuine in their efforts to create a good product for their customer.

On the other end, you have an upper management person that selects their knives from the rolls of samples provided by their vendors, usually from China, because they have the cheapest knives.

The designs are usually stolen from successful designs created with passion by honest knife designers. They don't know one knife from another and don't care. The vendor will put whatever name you want on the blade as well as any steel you choose, although the knives themselves will usually not be made from the material listed and the material listed is what the company feels will "sell the best".

Switch tracks again.

Many of those that are providing/sharing their knowledge try to educate those with questions to their opinion of the best choices, for a variety of reasons.

The two designs shown above as Sarge models are copies of the Spyderco Rescue and Kiwi designs. I know because I designed them. I don't think that the people at Sarge even know that. I don't think that they care at all or they wouldn't be doing that.

They are not trying to create a well made safe product for you to use, "They are just out to capture your dollar".

SSSOOOOooooooo.....The folks here are trying to suggest that you learn and choose carefully. Especially if you want to enjoy knives and the world that accompanies knives.

sal
 
Thanks for the insight Sal, after reading up i'm probally not going to get one of these, mostly because of the good points people have made also because after looking at some other slip joints i'm liking the Black G-10 Medium Stockman by Case and the Cocobolo Large Stockman by Queen but I can't find anybody who sells the queens but i'm straying from the point. Also one of the main reasons I posted this thread was for people to tell me what expeirances they have had with these knives and it turned into a storm of people hating on them because they made knock offs, when all I really wanted was some examples of them if they were good or bad.
 
Ben, here's my recommendation for 3 outstanding slipjoints, worth saving up for, or a cheap alternative:

- Anything by Great Eastern Cutlery or their other brands Tidioute or Northwind. I have the delicious and not too big #73 scout trapper with black micarta handle, and most other GECs are very pretty indeed.
- A German Eye Copperhead. Classic, sturdy, carbon steel.
- more modern in style, the Spyderco Urban, for example this Wharncliffe one.
- For similar price as Sarge, Rough Riders are really quite ok. Not in the league of the ones I quote above, but suprisingly capable if you consider that they cost the price of a CD.
 
Looking around the Sarge site I see rip offs of several companies. I see that the original OP was just wondering about if anyone handled/owned the knives and was curious about their quality.

These kind of threads always have strong opinions. I am squarely in the camp of "Shame on Sarge" and "Shame on Blade." To me it has nothing to do with quality, good or bad.

If some guy is walking down the street and he drops a hundred dollar bill on the ground. I can pick it up and keep it or pick it up and return it. Sure it's still a hundred dollar bill either way and spends just like one I earned....BUT....

just sayin.
 
They look extremely cheap, judging by the pictures on the site. Plus they copy designs. :thumbdn::thumbdn:
 
Ben,

I have 5 of the black Sarge knives and I will say that I am really impressed with their service. I bought them through Amazon for less than 3 bucks each. As a collector of Case knives I will say that given the opportunity to buy these knives at a low cost I would buy 5 more. I can't see paying over 20 buck each (only because I got 5 for $15), but I will say compared to the edge you can put on these knives and their ability to keep their edge they are worth the 20+ that the website calls for. I am by far no knife expert and my opinion only comes from carrying and using them. I like the Sarge knives over the Kershaw simply because of price. I have both and they both perform the same.
 
I have all sorts of knives (woo, hoo!)- some Swiss, some German and English, most US-made. I even make them. What I found is Sarge knives are not bad for the money. Mine seem to hold up well and keep a good edge. What's cool is if I lose one or break it Sarge in North Carolina replaces it free of charge, which probably is not all that much of a sacrifice for them, but they do all-the-same. Try to get any of the more reputable knife makers to do that.

True, the knives are mostly if not all Chinese-made, but us old guys remember how we looked down on Japanese stuff a while back. Now look at them. I would not be so fast to discount Chinese products, one just has to be careful. Besides, if you're stomping around in the woods and lose a Sarge it doesn't hurt as much as losing your Kershaw or KA-BAR. Just my two-cents worth.
 
Trooper614 - I'm sure you're a nice guy...I thank you for your service in The Great War, but come on brother, the Sarge knives are horrible in every conceivable way. I don't blame you for pulling up a dead thread...I'm sure you just now joined BF, did a search for Sarge & found this thread not even fully realizing how "uncool" it is to comment on old threads. I'll stick up for ya on that any day, but I can't condone your use of Sarge knives. I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to stop using them. I'm sorry it had to come to this, but you'll thank me later on, I promise.
 
I am a member of Whitetails Unlimited. In the monthly magazine they have a feature whereby you look for a small logo of a deer antler hidden somewhere in the magazine. Then you go to the website and sign up for a drawing and put down the page were you found the antler. They then draw from the entries.

I won this month. A Sarge TK Carolina Field Knife. On their site I believe it says it retails for $60 or so. Relatively inexpensive. The website does say 440C Stainless.

Looking at their site it looks like they are just an importer. No design nor manufacturing going on their part.

My other fixed blade hunting knives are a Buck 103 and a custom from a gentleman in Utah.

It came in the mail the other day. I have not had a chance to use it yet. I opened the box and at first glance it looked nice. Upon further inspection I can see a generous gap where the scales meet the guard. Maybe 1 or 2mm. The guard does not fit tight to the blade. I will definitely need to sharpen it before use. The edge out of the box is so-so. I like the shape of the blade and handle.

I do not think this knife will be used in the deer woods unless I maybe fill the gaps between guard and scales and blade and guard. Too much of a chance for crud and guts to get in there and percolate.

I have won several of these folders at Whitetails Unlimited banquets in varying colored handles.

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Very inexpensive knives. One piece molded handle. I have no idea what the steel is but they sharpen relatively easily and hold it longer than I would expect a cheap knife would. I think I would rather have a bunch of these than one of those Sarge Knives.
 
I know Im a decade late to this lol but I actually just discovered Sarge and bought a few for the hell of it. Pretty solid build quality. Pretty inpressed for what they are. They seem to be one of those corporate branding knives where company prints their names on the knife and hands them out as a form of advertising. Majority of their knives atleast on Ebay are like that. 1 of the knives I bought was the exact same as a Gerber Air Ranger. Not sure if its a rip off or if Gerber and Sarge have some agreement or use the same factories not sure but its for sure the same knife. Not letting me upload pictures but I took a few side by side and you can see how its almost exact same as the Air Ranger.
 
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