SarsquaTch question for all you Busse historians

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Hi all, I am getting a sarsquatch and have searched for info on the sarsquatch with limited results. From what I gather it was designed as a search and rescue tool, is this correct?
What was the swedge designed for? And is it sharp for cutting ?
Thanks all, I know folks here will have Some views and info, I appreciate any info.
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The Sarsquatch was supposed to be a knife that was designed with input from those of us that are members of the search and rescue community. Unfortunately we are a minority here on the forum and many others chimed in with their two cents worth. As a result features that we did not want were included and features that we did want we left out. The swedge is a great example of a feature we did not want. Myself and many others did buy the Sarsquatch only to discover after trying it out that it did not perform as we needed it to. For the most part, with exceptions, most of the Sarsquatchs that were bought by the SAR community have been resold to people outside the community.

To answer your questions regarding the swedge. No it was not sharpened in its original form. I'm still not sure what point the swedge was supposed to serve. In the experience of myself and others we found its only point was to chew up batons and hinder the progress of the blade through the piece of wood we were trying to split.

Hope this helps.
 
I seem to recall the SAR-5 was the first of the SAR knives, though Jerry will be quick to point out that he is not at all proud of the SAR-5. The SARsquatch was the next iteration, followed thereafter by the SAR series from the Company Store. The -5 and the Squatch are outliers in the series for sure.
 
I like the Squatch. Granted... I'd rather have it without the swedge. Still, it is remarkably light and lively in the hand for a large blade.

Jerry doesn't like the SAR5... but he DID design it. I think it is the most under-rated knife in the INFI line. It is pure genius.
 
Great blade. It is my go to mid sized user.

Good handle ergo's. Flat pommel/tang for pounding if you need to. No "skull crusher" to bang your bits on. Great blade shape. Plenty of edge to spine height. It chops better than you would expect for it's size and thickness.

Another great thing, is that it is not overly thick. It is a great all arounder for outdoor use. Works for food prep, skinning, processing meat etc. I have used it a lot in the kitchen as well.

Mine has a polished swedge, and convexed polished edge.

The only thing I would change is to take the swedge, and take the "hump" out. But even that has grown on me.


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Congrats on the Sarsquatch. It's a cool blade. Not real pretty, though.

It's one of the best mid-sized "camp knives" I've used, and has a great handle. I don't know what the swedge is there for, either, but I've never paid it much attention and it's never really given me any problems.

Being lighter than many Busses of the same length, it rides well for long periods of time. And it'll do pretty much anything you need a knife that size to do.
 
Jaxx and I had our swedges removed (and Jaxx has a prettier handle on his....hopefully he'll post a picture of his too).
Here's mine (modified by NorCalBlacktail)...
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insightful thread! Just yesterday I was wondering what the SarsquaTch was, since it isn't in the bussecollector database.
 
I like the Squatch. Granted... I'd rather have it without the swedge. Still, it is remarkably light and lively in the hand for a large blade.

Jerry doesn't like the SAR5... but he DID design it. I think it is the most under-rated knife in the INFI line. It is pure genius.

well, he prototype designed it. That knife was never meant to get made, as his drawing was modified afterwards, but the original un-modified drawings were used for the production in a mix up.
 
Which doesn't bother me at all since I also like the SAR5 quite a bit. It would benefit in my hand from some thinner slabs but that's it.
 
SAR5 is one of my favorite Busse knives. It has a very efficient design with lots of blade for the weight and the ability to get your hand close to the cutting edge.
 
I have the CF SarSquatch, I like the knife, but have also wondered what was up with the swedge, and it not being sharpened. Why have it?

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I was at the indy1500 gun& knife show and the Busse table had a SarSquatch and a DSF on the table, both felt really good in my hand but I bought the DSF which I LOVE. The following weeks I couldnt get the Squatch out of my mind, so I got on the exhange and found the competition finish edition and couldn't be happier.

It fits very naturally in my hand, not too heavy/too large that it feels awkward. Also the CF has a factory convex edge that is nice.
 
The idea of the SAR5 is great, its similar to the cabs in concept, but not in quality of finished design. There are elements that stand out as starkly 'unfinished'. Specifically the placement of the palm swell so far back on the knife, thickness of the scales, length of handle and shallow curvature in the handle to edge transition.

Jerry tends to have a pretty tight control over balance on his knives, sometimes doing extreme things like the pommel swell on the SAR4/6/8 in order to keep the balance in check and where he wants it. At least it seems that way to me. The sar5 does not display this skill in design, it is very handle heavy. I experienced a similar design flaw when I tried to redesign the sar5 when I sent it to garth to have the mod done, but I realized that I had not removed several of the problematic factors in my requested modification - specifically that the handle was too long, and that the scales started to far back. Both of these elements force the hand to be an inch farther back from the edge in order to get the knife to put the center of balance at your midle finger. If you chocke up into a controlled grip, the center of balance is at your pinky and you are barely holding onto the scales.

For some people that might not be a porblem, for me it's a design flaw. I want to have my hand close to the edge on my knife at all times, I want my gaurd to be minimal but substantial enough to be effective, and I want the knife balanced in a way that makes it feel either blade heavy or neutral - never handle heavy unless it's a carving knife. With a gaurdless knife even moreso. The sar5 felt like it was constantly trying to slip back into your hand, bringing the edge dangerously close to slipping through your fingers, especially when you hand was weak or shaking from exhaustion or over use from chopping/batoning.

As a search and rescue knife, it seems like a bad idea to me to a) force the hand to be far away from the edge to be comfortable, b) place the balance in a way that the knife is likely to slip into the hand when it is tired and week and trying to get a position of best control and c) create such a shallow curvature in the handle to edge transition that the slipping of the edge into exhausted hand is more likely.

I don't discount the fact that the sar5 is one of the only choiless busse knives out there (one of only 3 general use models besides the khukuries) - It is just not a perfect knife, as jerry said. He had very specific and very valid reasons for saying it - He heavily modified the design for production and did not get to have those modifications show in the final product.
 
Love my Squatch!!!

It's responsible for the sale of my Tankbuster, CG ASH1 and Skinny ASH as I always grabbed it instead... I wish Busse would produce more larger blades at .19" like the squatch and BWM CG - it makes a huge difference and I never feel like "damn I wish this was .25" because it might break."

It's even been getting more use than my NMSFNO over the past 6 months. I especially love it for winter due to the larger finger choil which is GREAT for gloved hands.

A "do anything" duo:
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Maybe Jaxx will show you his :-)

Jaxx and I had our swedges removed (and Jaxx has a prettier handle on his....hopefully he'll post a picture of his too).
Here's mine (modified by NorCalBlacktail)...
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I can't take any credit for my variant at all...only credit I get is for quickly snatching it up outta the Trough at last year's BLADE Show! :D ...It is a 100% Custom Shop creation and a heckuva sweet knife. :thumbup::thumbup: I believe that it's the only CS 'Squatch variant released so far...that I know about, anyway! :)
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I had Ban modify this one. And I got the idea from Horn Dog, which was the first one of us to make a clip point Sarsquatch.
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I got rid of the swedge because I thought it would look cool. But the reduced weight means it doesn't chop as well as it used too. It's a good thing I have two. :D
 
I know I am in the far, far minority here but the Sarsquatch is my least favorite Busse. :foot:
 
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