Saw Survivorman last night

I think you're right about Bear Grills he's a little cheesy (actually really cheesy). But Les is no joke, he actually lived in the Yukon with one other person for over a year. What if you lost your equipment and only had a few things to help you, it's nice to see there is a way to survive in most situations. Plus the show is called "Survivor Man" not "Lets walk in the woods with a bunch of modern equipment Man." Bottom line if you dont like the show don't watch, but don't bash a man who is putting something on T.V much more worth watching then the normal reality filth.

Hey jarlaxle,

Unless you know something that I don't (and that's quite possible), the year he spent in the north country was in Northwestern Ontario, I think in the Wabakimi district and the other person was his wife. This is documented in his video, "Snowshoes and Solitude".

Doc
 
i was wondering about all the cameras he often takes with him.

does he leave them behind when he walks out? in one episode, there was footage of him walking away from the camera in the snow. in another he was walking toward the camera on his way out. who set up that camera?

:D I thought the same exact thing when i first started watching the show. But in one epidode, you see him walking away and right when i was thinkin "is he just ganna leave that camera" he comes back on screen and says,"D'you think i was just ganna leave the camera.'" And on another episode he says he's ganna leave one for the crew to come get cause he was to tired.

Just another reason his show is much better than Man vs. Wild. Les has the burden of filming and setting up shots as well as retreiving cameras. Also he's in solitude. Bear probably rolls with a 3 man crew all of which he can talk too. (and im sure snag a few power bars from, or snuggle into their tents when the cameras off.)

Les was a musician turned outdoor and survival enthusiest. He got into filming and cameras when he started making music videos.

here's a link with more info. http://www.lesstroudonline.com/:thumbup:
 
The sad part iws that the majority of people present company excluded venture out for day hikes and camping trips entirely un prepared I went for a day hike last year in a relatively secluded area with about 10 guys I work with lots of people bought cameras and food and i-pods I was the only one with knife or a hotspark "or a map" so there are people out there that could end up in situations like thes guys put themselves in....however asa I mentione before these are the same people who might not be as good at improvising.
 
I think Survivorman and Man vs. Wild are both great shows.

Les survives for a week with close to nothing, and I think that's the whole point. 99% of the population that ends up in trouble does not have a GPS, compass, flint, knife, etc. with them when it happens. I like to see that simulation. With our better-than-average knowledge of survival skills (I'm referring to members of this forum and others like us), we are the extreme minority.

Bear might be nuts, but that's part of why I like him. I have to give him credit for putting himself in horrible situations just to show the viewer what to do if they ended up in the same predicament. For instance, like the time he jumped in the frozen water. You might say that was really stupid and he did it for no reason, but I think him doing that to show what to do next was educational. And yes, trying to jump on a wild horse was kind of ridiculous, BUT... I bet if he was able to get on it, you would think that it was pretty damn cool.

People really like ragging on these 2 guys and their shows, it seems, or at least take them way too seriously. I think these shows are 90% entertainment and 10% educational, and that's just fine with me. If somebody doesn't have the common sense to know that some of the things they do are really extreme, then I hate to say it, but they probably don't have enough sense to survive if they are ever so unlucky to be in one of these situations anyway.

Like someone else said, with all of the pure garbage that's on TV, I am really happy to have 2 shows like this that are entertaining, show off various locations in the world (great scenery), and may help me pick up a little worst-case-scenario knowledge here and there.

Well said, tka1 :thumbup: , and GibsonFan, Ron Hood's videos are excellent.

Doc
 
Hey jarlaxle,

Unless you know something that I don't (and that's quite possible), the year he spent in the north country was in Northwestern Ontario, I think in the Wabakimi district and the other person was his wife. This is documented in his video, "Snowshoes and Solitude".

Doc

No i think you're correct. I did hear of a big trip he spent there, but the year was with his wife. Either way, i have a lot of respect for the man and his abilities. I read his house is ran almost completely on solar power and alt. energy.:thumbup:
 
"In the spring of 1994, Les Stroud and Sue Jamison bade farewell to modern society and followed their hearts north into the remote reaches of the Canadian wilderness. Leaving home, family and jobs behind, they would spend the next year living closer to the land than most of us could ever imagine. And they did it without the luxury of a single modern convenience.

Traveling by canoe and in the winter by snowshoe, Les and Sue were attempting to replicate life in North America some 500 years ago, before Europeans first set foot on the continent. They created fire without matches. They built a shelter with a stone axe. They survived on what the bush provided. In doing so they realized the true meaning of living wild, and how closely life and death coexist when you're many miles from human contact.

Snowshoes and Solitude is the incredible story of Les and Sue's year in the Wabakimi wilderness. It chronicles the struggles and triumphs of their daily lives, and their burning love and respect for the natural world.

Snowshoes and Solitude is one of the great wilderness adventures of our time. "

Taken from the official les stroud website.
 
I like Les. He is one tuff guy and I like his personality. I would like to hang with him for a while.

I like Bear too he is a little "hotdog" for me but he is entertaining. Hey anyone that can squeeze a "drink" from an elephant turn is alright in my book. :D
 
I like Les. He is one tuff guy and I like his personality. I would like to hang with him for a while.

I like Bear too he is a little "hotdog" for me but he is entertaining. Hey anyone that can squeeze a "drink" from an elephant turn is alright in my book. :D

i like em both as well. that elephant turd made me dry heave.
 
I like Les and enjoy his show, I absolutely loath Bear. Chris

+1. That idiot Bear will never be on my screen. I don't believe for a minute he was ever a real SAS trooper. He may have been an attached radio operator or something like that, but he displays none of the real training these guys get.

I do watch Survivorman, and usually make my wife and kids watch. That one survivorman that simulated the man, woman, and infant who broke down on the snowy pass in particular was pretty good. He does spend a lot of time showing how to improvise from broken vehicles or trash, which is a common scenario experienced by both the prepared and unprepared. And some times, he's obviously just showing skills (using a second way to make fire or leaving a nice beachfront setup to wander in the jungle), just killing time to make it to 7 days, or just bored.

If you watch SM enough, you will see bits of all the appropriate equipment, a magnesium fire starter here, a space blanket there, an inner tube fire starter and improvised canteen here, a magnifying glass there, a power bar here, a payute fall there etc.

No one (except us woodsmanship freaks) would watch a SM show that had him walking to a chunk of land, bungeeing up a tarp, starting a fire, boiling water in a canteen cup and placing snares and fishing for 7 days. It just isn't that interesting. I do wish he'd do more on survival signalling and improvising cordage and water containers.

Hey anyone that can squeeze a "drink" from an elephant turn is...

a total moron who is throwing up or at least admitting he has diarrhea in most episodes. There is very little that he does that makes any sense whatsoever and most of it could kill you.

The only SM stunt that falls in the bonehead category is spearfishing in the ocean, especially in an area where he had just seen sharks.

I was the only one with knife or a hotspark "or a map" so there are people out there that could end up in situations like thes guys put themselves in...

I suspect he will do a "this is what you should carry in your buttpack" show. Or you could just take notes from the various shows and figure it out.

If my little ones and wife just get a little reinforcement on how to make expedient shelters, make a fire and purify water, I'll be happy. In 99% of the survival situations, most people could survive with a large enough pile of leaves, bows, grass or snow and three days of waiting for rescue. My daughter really loves watching Survivorman, then trying the stuff when we take hikes. That alone is good enough for me, because if it were just the old man telling her... well, you know. Remember, TV and video entertainment is EVERYTHING to this generation. They need it in their cars, on there Ipods, everywere. Seeing Survivorman on TV means the subject must be cool Of course, her favorite book is now The Hatchet.

I can't get her to watch my WM tapes. Ron Hood is just too professorial for her. It isn't entertainment to her.

Have you ever seen him deploy his pliers?

Yes, he has cut out the spokes from bike and motorcycle wheels, and cut wire and stripped it from the plastic sheath.

I know I'll get chastised for this since since this is a knife forum, but I'd take a multitool over a fixed blade knife or a SAK any day of the week. (Locking SAK not bad, but if I had a choice... locking multitool all the way.) I've never had to do a bayonet charge while hiking. I don't know why people feel compelled to strap on a 7-12 inch blade to go hiking. For chopping, I'm using a hatchet not a knife. Know that I think about it, I carry an e-tool--with one sharpened edge to make a backup chopper-- more often than my fixed blades.

Nothing wrong with appreciating knives, but it reminds me a little of the militant survivalists who think you need a FAL, a 9mm pistol, and a .22/20g combo with about 1000 rounds on every hike. Knives (and guns) are great, but a big fixed blade (or a main battle rifle) isn't on my list of necessities. I always chuckle when I see some guy with a hollow handle, compass rambo knife and doesn't know that his knife is actually weaker than some folders.

Knives are great. But many people can and have survived without a $200 8" fixed blade.

trying to jump on a wild horse was kind of ridiculous, BUT... I bet if he was able to get on it, you would think that it was pretty damn cool.

You haven't been around wild horses much. He was much MUCH more likely to get a hoof in the head and die before his ignorant corpse hit the ground. Wild horse will bite you in a hurry too. Frankly, I suspect this will happen sometime in the future to this clown. God looks out for small children and idiots, but if you do stupid things long enough even his compassion will fail. Ask the Crocodile Hunter.

People really like ragging on these 2 guys and their shows, it seems, or at least take them way too seriously. I think these shows are 90% entertainment and 10% educational, and that's just fine with me.

Where is the 10% education in Moron vs. Wild? I only saw three episodes before I quit watching. Didn't see ONE SINGLE THING that was educational. EDIT: That drinking from the jungle stream then vomitting violently all night scene and the drink the elephant dung then mention that you have diarrhea scene were useful in illustrating why you don't drink questionable water without treating it in some way. I found myself rooting against the guy. I did find myself a little let down that our pretend SAS trooper wasn't eaten while napping in the lion's den beside the water buffalo bones. Or that he didn't snap an ankle while rapelling on grapevines and have to limp out. I know that's wrong of me.
 
I too saw Survivorman for the first time last night and I really enjoyed the show. The only problem I had with it was the contradictory premise that someone would know so many survival tricks, but be so unprepared to be in the Wilderness in the first place. I think the show would have been just as entertaining if he had a few more pieces of gear (e.g., a real knife, a couple of energy bars, a few matches), but still faced the same scenario.

I guess I can't escape the vestiges of the Boy Scout in me.
 
It's entertainment and maybe, just maybe, one person who was going to jump out of a balloon in the middle of lion country will now rethink his plan and be prepared after watching the mistakes.

When Bear spit out that Zebra meat and in a British accent said, "Nasty bit". I thought I was watching a Monty Python skit.

Les loss points in my book when he cut his finger ( "hit the bone") while the monkeys were throwing stuff at him. I have seen him use bad cutting form several times.

Les' show about surviving in flooded urban settings (home, car, office) was very educational IMO with no added entertainment thrown in. As I live inside that levee system but wasn't flooded, I have changed my backup plan a tiny bit because of that show. My primary plan is still to get the hell out of the storm path.
 
"In the spring of 1994, Les Stroud and Sue Jamison bade farewell to modern society and followed their hearts north into the remote reaches of the Canadian wilderness. Leaving home, family and jobs behind, they would spend the next year living closer to the land than most of us could ever imagine. And they did it without the luxury of a single modern convenience.

Traveling by canoe and in the winter by snowshoe, Les and Sue were attempting to replicate life in North America some 500 years ago, before Europeans first set foot on the continent. They created fire without matches. They built a shelter with a stone axe. They survived on what the bush provided. In doing so they realized the true meaning of living wild, and how closely life and death coexist when you're many miles from human contact.

Snowshoes and Solitude is the incredible story of Les and Sue's year in the Wabakimi wilderness. It chronicles the struggles and triumphs of their daily lives, and their burning love and respect for the natural world.

Snowshoes and Solitude is one of the great wilderness adventures of our time. "

Taken from the official les stroud website.

With all due respect, and I'm a Stroud fan, that outtake from the website is a bunch of crap. IIRC, there was no stone axe to be seen, although there were a lot of shots of the steel one. The original intention was to use all primitive tools, but some of that went by the wayside. I'm going to dig out the video and rewatch it. If I'm wrong, I'll correct the foregoing.

None of this is meant to take away from their achievements, just to keep the facts straight.

Doc
 
Its a fact though, no-adays, there are just somethings you cant shake off. Power and running water are a nessity with children.
 
People really like ragging on these 2 guys and their shows, it seems, or at least take them way too seriously.

I don't know. Have you ever seen how passionate people can get about their favorite professional sports team? Talk about taking something too seriously and then ripping into it!

Hey, it's on TV and it's a topic we all enjoy. Of course we're going to discuss it and criticize it when the show violates our own opinions on things. That's what TV is FOR!

But after reading through the rest of the comments on this thread, I'll have to reserve judgement on Les until I see a few more of his shows. I think one of the reasons why I had the reaction I did is because Les obviously knows his stuff, so it's that much harder to suspend my sense of disbelief. Bear, on the other hand, is so obviously a bouncing clown and so I can turn off all higher brain functions and simply zone to the gorgeous scenery in the background.

BTW, whoever it is that said we're all just jealous of these guys, hey, I'll own up to that. I'm jealous of anyone who gets to go hang out in the Rockies whilst I'm stuck in my house installing new recessed lighting.
 
BTW, whoever it is that said we're all just jealous of these guys, hey, I'll own up to that. I'm jealous of anyone who gets to go hang out in the Rockies whilst I'm stuck in my house installing new recessed lighting.

yeah, me too :o :rolleyes: :D
 
I know I'll get chastised for this since since this is a knife forum, but I'd take a multitool over a fixed blade knife or a SAK any day of the week. (Locking SAK not bad, but if I had a choice... locking multitool all the way.) I've never had to do a bayonet charge while hiking. I don't know why people feel compelled to strap on a 7-12 inch blade to go hiking. For chopping, I'm using a hatchet not a knife. Know that I think about it, I carry an e-tool--with one sharpened edge to make a backup chopper-- more often than my fixed blades.

Don't know why you'd get chastised. Everyone has their own opinion and you have to carry the gear that you feel most comfortable with.

Me, I like my leatherman and I always have it with me in the woods. But I also always have a fixed blade. The fixed blade is stronger than the folding knife on the leatherman, just in case I ever have to pry or baton with it. Plus, if I have to operate a blade one-handed it's a hell of a lot easier with a fixed blade than a leatherman. Also, a fixed blade is easier to clean so if I'm doing any food preparation I prefer the fixed blade on that point alone.

Really, they're different tools with some functionality overlap. So I think I need both, just in case. On the other hand, I guess I'm not a true knife nut because my biggest knife is usually a 5.5" fixed blade. Then again, it does have that dreaded hollow handle so I guess I'm halfway there. ;)
 
I guess I'm not a true knife nut
That's the way therapy begins. ;)

BTW, whoever it is that said we're all just jealous of these guys, hey, I'll own up to that. I'm jealous of anyone who gets to go hang out in the Rockies whilst I'm stuck in my house installing new recessed lighting.

Hmmmm. Hard to argue with that. ;) Now I really dislike Bear!!! :D :D :D
 
RescueRiley, sounds like you're thinking of doing what Michel Bromgren's done over on www.bushcraft.se.

GREAT vids, common sense, safety-oriented, no BS. Thanks for posting that! The little woman and I sat here for an hour and a half watching them. Exactly the kind of "here's what to bring and why/how to use it" videos I was looking for. He wears the same surplus wool gloves as I do, he must know what he's doing :D I'm putting those Hood's Woods vids on my wishlist, keep hearing good things about them, too.


Does Les always have a leatherman? Never anything else? Have you ever seen him deploy his pliers?

Pretty much always, yes. He uses the pliers and main blade most often, as you would imagine. In the plane-wreck episode he had a sturdy hatchet; one time, a wire-saw (which promptly broke, you could tell he was pretty ticked off, lol), one time they gave him a magnesium bar/ferro rod which he liked a lot.

I too carry a Leatherman AND a small fixed blade. I consider the LM to be a pliers with bonuses. Mind you, I often also carry a big ol' honkin' bowie too, so there! :D

Les loss points in my book when he cut his finger ( "hit the bone") while the monkeys were throwing stuff at him. I have seen him use bad cutting form several times.

Good point there, I don't think Les is any kind of knife knut. Not sure I've seen him ever use a "real" knife. My woman points it out to the kids when he cuts stupid like that. He should know better, an open cut is a big bummer outdoors. I'd still take a cut over cliff-diving or drinking dung-squeezings though! :barf:

My biggest annoyance with Les is, he's a little too new age/touchy feely about killing things. If it had been me in the episode where he had the rifle for polar bear defense, there would have been one less caribou wandering around and one well-fed survivor with a new fur cloak;)
 
I've seen Survivorman, and I've seen similar shows..... including another one on the same channel.

Survivorman is actually better than the other shows. The so-called experts on the other shows intentionally take stupid risks! I mean really stupid risks. As in, "He must have lied about his qualifications," stupid risks!
 
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