Scagel Style H.I.SW'n Bowie.Prototype-2.

May 18, 1999
I didn't want this to get lost in the other thread.

Here is the Scagel style SW Bowie.
I drew it pretty much to scale and 1/4"=1"
The blade will be from 2" to 2 1/2" wide and 12" long. The Bowie will be 18" oal.
Again let me know what y'all think.
I really like this one!!!

But it is kinda like the YCS and I must admit bias.

And keeping to the Scagel style it will be a stick tang blade, but the tang will be full length and will be peened over on the end.
There will also be one rivet through the handle. Should be super dayumed tough!!!




Indin word for lousy hunter.
Yvsa, two little teeny-weeny questions,

"Where the blazes is the Spanish notch?", and

"Why so short?" (
You know that you need a 13 to 14 inch blade to balance the thing properly, you silly goose, you!

Other than those two things, looks real good.

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This one I like!!!!! Scagel happens to be one of my favorites. My Dads too.
I think that I really like this one.

Keep coming up with these great designs, and you'll have to get a bigger safe in which to store the final product.
Yvsa, this is exactly what I have been looking for. You are a genius. Consider me a definate if the kamis agree to make this knife.
Looks great Yvsa! If they make this you can count on me for an order. Ditto for your hawk design. I didn't get to reply on the other thread but it looks great. Let's see.... you can put me down for 1 bowie, 1 spike hawk, 1 polled hawk and 1 pipe hawk. Make that a Kothimoda pipe hawk!
Thanks guys!!!!!

Looks like this is the one we will go with then. I'm glad!!!

Rusty my Bro Mr.Scagel didn't use a Spanish notch (that I know about) and hopefully the width of the blade will let it balance out okay.
A Spanish notch will work on the 1st design though. And if we put a Spanish notch on the design the kamis will probably think it's supposed to be a cho and make it accordingly.

Will he didn't make choils either in the normal term (again that I know about). The radius at the back of the blade should permit some chokeing up. However the way it's made should permit some personal customizeing if one should desire to do so.

Actually there shouldn't be any straight area on the edge at all it needs to drop just a tiny bit from the radius and then gently flow to the point. I got in too big a hurry to get it up here.

I Love Scagels designs!!!! There were 3 knifesmiths at the show in Little Rock that had some very nice Scagel style knives.
But after buying a knife from Ray Kirk (Raker Knives) and Ronnie E.Foster I had spent my allowance.
And to have gotten one of the Scagel Style Knife's I would have had to put at least another $80.00 with what I had spent. They weren't cheap nor should they have been. The knifesmiths had done an excellent job on their blades. Absolutely Beautiful work!!!

Bro, a detailed model it will be.

And Bro, got a question for you.
I know the kamis can do some detailed work from things they've done in the past, but I wanted to throw this out to see what you thought......
I have in mind a steel guard and then about a 1/8" to 3/16" piece of buffalo horn, then a piece of brass about 1/32" and another piece of buffalo horn and so on for about 5 or 6 layers...
And then if possible a piece of buffalo bone and a cap of buffalo horn with a small steel keeper.
There will be a rivet through the bone, and it would be nice if it could be of brass or
Do you think this is possible?
If it is possible I realize there might not be enough of, or suitable, bone to make the center part of the handle and in that case I personally would like to see some nice rosewood if possible. The bone would make a prettier knife, but the wood would actually be more practical since it will be stronger and less
This knife should drive the kamis over the line from only _Thinking_ we're crazy into _Knowing_ we are.

Mr.Scagel usually used a piece of crown stag for an end cap and he used leather washers and brass and sometimes thin colored material from electrical boxes to make his handles. And this along with the way he placed the handles on his blades became his signature and is what really makes a Scagel Style
Notice how the tang comes straight out from the top of the blade instead of being centered like most people do?
Mr.Scagel had his own ideas about how a blade and a knife should be made.

And I am glad he did......



Indin word for lousy hunter.

[This message has been edited by Yvsa (edited 02-16-2001).]
"Jest" tzn!

But I would like to see it with just a little longer blade. They say that at 13 or 14 inches, you can really take advantage of the leverage to whip them around.
I'm sure it will be a great knife! I have a Yvsa's bird and trout already and I'm not going to miss this one. Uncle Bill, please count me in.