Scandinavian knives

jiggybaw said:
Vassili,will you,please,give us some more info about this real Finish Sissi s outdoor philosophy?
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You can ask him yourself:

http://talks.guns.ru/forummisc/show_profile/00021255?username=Sissi

I was impressed when he sad that with steel wire you can do anything out of wood in the forest. And it sound very easy - I can imagine myself making some kind of chair out of branches etc. However of course this bad, chair and table as I understand they did once for demonstration not like this is usual practice outdoor.

From other hand his word my and own experience was all about enjoying outdoor - not surviving. This is city folks point of view - they feel like surviving, but from some country man point of view city jungles way more dangerous then forest... Sitting near fire with jar of hot tea under deep sky, singing song with acoustic gгitare... This is hardly surviving.

Thanks, Vassili.

P.S. as I understand any gardening store has steel wire - it is too bright green color from camo point of view. But I got one and practice a bit with it. I am sure that what Sissi sad is easy doable. You may try for youself. It is fun!
 
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I stumbling on ferro rods tied up with wire,for concrete reinforcing,every day on construction site for last fifteen years but i was too stupid to bring some wire in the Forrest till I read your post.
Thanks man
 
Well, Thank Sissi not me - I have same feeling when I just read his post first.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Anybody interested in "tactical" Scandinavian style knives should check Pekka Tuominen´s knives at http://www.puukkopekka.com/. He is a true custom maker and one of the best, with many awards to his credit. Particularly, no. 15 fulltang-knife and no. 16 fulltang-leuku should be enough to handle any tactical or survival situation.
 
veeteetee said:
Anybody interested in "tactical" Scandinavian style knives should check Pekka Tuominen´s knives at http://www.puukkopekka.com/. He is a true custom maker and one of the best, with many awards to his credit. Particularly, no. 15 fulltang-knife and no. 16 fulltang-leuku should be enough to handle any tactical or survival situation.
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Nice modern style pukko and leuku. I especially like leuku pommel! Only problem is guard - some kind of safety needed for tactcal knife - even Kainuun making their models for military with some guard.

http://www.kainuunpuukko.com/finger-guard-tommi/?vo=0

Also steel is just generic Sandvic - I rather ask master Yukka Hankala to smith one out of Silver steel with some guard.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
nozh2002 said:
Nice modern style pukko and leuku. I especially like leuku pommel! Only problem is guard - some kind of safety needed for tactcal knife - even Kainuun making their models for military with some guard.

http://www.kainuunpuukko.com/finger-guard-tommi/?vo=0

Also steel is just generic Sandvic - I rather ask master Yukka Hankala to smith one out of Silver steel with some guard.

Thanks, Vassili.
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Nozh, you are wrong on all points but maybe you're not very familiar with Finnish edged tool culture or military use of edged tools. Finland has somewhat different traditions when it comes to fighting knives. Guards are not typical on finnish style military and fighting knives. And former veterans seem to have their fingers intact.

And based on my knowledge of steels, Sandvik 12c27 steel is better suited for heavy duty military knives than silver steel. Some manufacturers making mil knives seem to think so too...
 
PatriotDan said:
Nozh, you are wrong on all points but maybe you're not very familiar with Finnish edged tool culture or military use of edged tools. Finland has somewhat different traditions when it comes to fighting knives. Guards are not typical on finnish style military and fighting knives. And former veterans seem to have their fingers intact.

And based on my knowledge of steels, Sandvik 12c27 steel is better suited for heavy duty military knives than silver steel. Some manufacturers making mil knives seem to think so too...
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Well Sissipukko has guard and it is developed by J.P.Peltonen who is Finnish military as well as kainuun military pukkos. However it does not really matter because I am not sure that Bige610 is finnish military and know what is finnish grip etc, so it is good idea to bring his attention to this point.

Now you may think that Sandvic 12C27 is better suited for heavy duty military steel in terns of stain resistance, cheap price etc - better for mass production and careless use. But hand forged german carbon silver steel will outperform it easy - I tested it myself. Also It is clear that Finnish themselfs prefer carbon steel - you may just see what is on the market there,

And finally, please, change your tone, so we will continue it as intellegent discussion.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
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nozh2002 said:
Well Sissipukko has guard and it is developed by J.P.Peltonen who is Finnish military as well as kainuun military pukkos. However it does not really matter because I am not sure that Bige610 is finnish military and know what is finnish grip etc, so it is good idea to bring his attention to this point.

Now you may think that Sandvic 12C27 is better suited for heavy duty military steel in terns of stain resistance, cheap price etc - better for mass production and careless use. But hand forged german carbon silver steel will outperform it easy - I tested it myself. Also It is clear that Finnish themselfs prefer carbon steel - you may just see what is on the market there,

And finally, please, change your tone, so we will continue it as intellegent discussion.

Thanks, Vassili.
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As if you being wrong and me saying it would make this thread any less intelligent is yet another wrong from you. You saying that you would not take a one of front figures of puukkosmiths and his custom work for a special forces soldier because it lacks something traditional finnish blades don't even have, slides the discussion to less intelligent and more pronounced path of wrongness because of your lacking factual information and misleading opinions. And it is your comment that had a tone that is not well taken. Sorry to see you can't handle that.
 
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Swedish Mora knives are really nice knives, i own a few of them and they are awesome for the money.
 
PatriotDan said:
As if you being wrong and me saying it would make this thread any less intelligent is yet another wrong from you. You saying that you would not take a one of front figures of puukkosmiths and his custom work for a special forces soldier because it lacks something traditional finnish blades don't even have, slides the discussion to less intelligent and more pronounced path of wrongness because of your lacking factual information and misleading opinions. And it is your comment that had a tone that is not well taken. Sorry to see you can't handle that.
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Let me once more be wrong at all the points and continue my wrongness:
1 - Well respected and established pukko company which is used by Finnish military - Kainuun making special military models with guard.
2 - Finnish military J.P.Peltonen making his special military pukkoes also with guard.
3 - If you are not trained to practice finnish grip you most likely will be injured fighting with knife without guard or any protection.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Strictly speaking, the puukko isn't a Saami knife, leukus are. The puukko is a Finnish knife. Leukus are Saami style knives for every kind of task. They are typically longer and larger blades than the puukko is. The "Saami" are the indigenous inhabitants of Finland, (circa 8,000 b.c.e.). I'm Sammi. You could compare the tribal Sammi to the Native American Plains Indians here in the United States. The Sammi were in "Finland" before there was a country named Finland. The Saami didn't & don't always speak the Finnish language, they have about five native dialects of their own.
sincerely,
Corvinus
 
Great thread!

I have a couple of OD green Mora Swedish Army Utility Knifes #760 and a Rapala Fish fillet knife (Finland) with leather sheath. All great inexpensive knifes at $10 each here in the USA.

I also would like a few more Scandinavian knives!




I worked with Danish Soldiers in Afghanistan. They were neat guys. I liked working with them. I do not remember if they carried a knife.

My wife's Norweagian family claimed to work in Norway underground.

In the US movie "The Green Berets" by John Wayne is based on a American Finnish Soldier. They also fought greatly in the Winter War.

I always though the below unit was an interesting idea by the Nazi's.

The SS Division Wiking was a German Waffen SS division recruited from foreign volunteers. During the course of World War II, the division progressed from a motorised infantry, regiment formation to a fully-fledged Panzer division. It saw action on the Eastern Front during the war.

After the success of the Infanterie-Regiment (mot.) Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler, SS-Verfügungstruppen-Division and the SS-Division Totenkopf during the early war campaigns in Poland and the West, it was decided to expand the number of Waffen SS divisions. Due to the influx of foreign volunteers, particularly from Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands and Norway, a decision was made to form a volunteer division.

This unit, originally organized as the Nordische Division (Nr.5), was to be made up of Nordic volunteers mixed with ethnic German Waffen-SS veterans. To this end, the Germania motorised infantry regiment from the SS-Division Verfügungstruppe was removed from the division in late 1940. In December, Germania was dissolved and the troops were used as a basis for the formation of a new SS motorised formation, now to be designated SS-Division (mot.) Germania. During its formative period, the division's name was changed again, to SS-Division (mot.) Wiking. in January 1941.

The division was formed around three motorised infantry regiments: Germania, formed mostly from ethnic Germans; Westland, consisting mainly of Dutch and Flemish volunteers; and Nordland, comprised mostly of Danes, Swedes and Norwegians. Command of the newly formed division was given to SS-Brigadeführer Felix Steiner, the former commander of the Verfügungstruppe Deutschland Regiment.

After its formation was complete, the division was sent to Heuberg, Germany for training. By April 1941, Wiking was deemed combat-ready. It was ordered east in June 1941, to take part in Army Group South's advance into Ukraine during Operation Barbarossa.

In June 1941 the Finnisches Freiwilligen Bataillon der Waffen-SS was formed from Finnish volunteers. After training this formation was attached to regiment Nordland in January 1942, further bolstering division strength. About 430 Finns who were veterans of the Winter War served within the Wiking division since the beginning of Operation Barbarossa. In spring 1943 Finnish volunteer battalion was replaced by an Estonian one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Division_Wiking
 
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