Schatt & Morgan 420 HC

[neeman]

How does Schatt & Morgan 420 HC compare to:

• Case Tru-Sharp
• Buck 420HC

Thanks

 

[IVANKERLEY]

review of mine...
S&M Wildcat Driller, came so-so sharp, sharpens up nicely but...
Not nearly as sharp as my Case CV and doesnt seem to sharpen quite as easy either.
That being said it wouldnt prevent me from buying another S&M as i love mine and the F&F is pretty impressive:thumbup: wish they would offer one in carbon steel i would be all over that in a hurry
all the best
ivan

 

[Bastid]

Ivan pretty much summed up my thoughts. If you are looking for a little better steel try the S&M file and wire tested. If you will accept fit and finish a little below the S&M line and want stainless (or pretty near) take a look at Queen D2, they also have some limited run knives in BG42 and ATS-34, although those are getting tougher to find.

 

[neeman]

Thanks,

I have Queen in D2 and no complaints!
File & Tested tend to run in bigger models.
I know S&M is excellent.
And there are some very nice patterns.

I would like to know how the 420 HC compares to other plain stainless steels.
Do they invest in a better heat treatment like Queen D2?
Ect....

 

[IVANKERLEY]

my schatt doesnt seem to hold its edge as well as my sons buck nobleman which is 440A (dont know what buck is doing but :thumbup:, they are doin it right)
hope that helps a little not really apples to apples but there ya go
ivan

 

[neeman]

my schatt doesnt seem to hold its edge as well as my sons buck nobleman which is 440A (dont know what buck is doing but :thumbup:, they are doin it right)
hope that helps a little not really apples to apples but there ya go
ivan

Thanks!

That is apples to apples
A plain jane stainless to plain jane stainless

 

[knowtracks]

Thanks,

I have Queen in D2 and no complaints!
File & Tested tend to run in bigger models.
I know S&M is excellent.
And there are some very nice patterns.

I would like to know how the 420 HC compares to other plain stainless steels.
Do they invest in a better heat treatment like Queen D2?
Ect....

All of Queen's heat treating is done by Peters Heat Treating, just down the road, unless things have changed.
In my expirence Queen's 420 stacks up well with Buck's older stainless & quite a bit better than Case's True Sharp.

 

[Peter Parker]

I prefer it to Case's SS and for me it performs at least as good as my 1095 blades. S&M's 420HC is well heat treated just like Queen's D2!

 

[IH8U]

My S&M scout doesn't hold edge worth a crap. I'm seriously thinking of trading it out for something else. I really like the scout pattern, but IMO the edge retention sucks.

 

[Will Power]

Can't find much difference between S&M stainless and CASE stainless. The latter gets more used though.S&M stainless seems very acceptable in my view. You can hear a lot of moaning about over in 'another place' as it's sometimes viewed as a poor man's steel.This is I think unfair. At the moment I'm going against the grain and want a large(monster)knife their XVIII series English Jack in brown wormberry bone,that's their regular stainless not ATS or 154 and I reckon it will do well(if I ever find one!)

 

[texasflyfisher]

I have three S & M patterns in the 420HC (Scout, Sowbelly and Railsplitter) and the blades sharpen easily and I can get them razor sharp. I used the scout for some scraping tasks and it was still plenty sharp when I accidentally sliced off a chunk of skin off the top of my thumb. It seems pretty similar to Case's SS or Victorinox's Inox to me.

 

[neeman]

Thanks for all the feedback

 

[John Schedel]

All of Queen's heat treating is done by Peters Heat Treating, just down the road, unless things have changed.
In my expirence Queen's 420 stacks up well with Buck's older stainless & quite a bit better than Case's True Sharp.

Since Queen "outsourced" their heat treating the quality of their blades have become much more consistent. When the company did their own heat treating their blades could be pretty variable in their ability to take and hold good edges.