schatt & morgan quality

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buckgen5

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i just purchased my first schatt & morgan knife on ebay today. it looks like a good knife but, i don't really know too much about them. the one i got is a 3 blade whittler with the wharncliffe blade. i am totally stoked to find this knife with the blades it has and the size it is. one thing i did read before buying it was that it is made of 420 hc steel. this steel in particular is one i have had a hard time with sharpening as it seems to roll over alot. when i say my experience with it i mean mostly the only knives i sharpen that have this kind of steel is the newer buck knives. i wonder is the heat treat better with schatt & morgan or can i expect it to perform well? i'm not trying to knock buck so don't get me wrong because i like buck alot.:D
 
Schatt & Morgan (Queen) makes wonderful knives. As far as the heat treat goes, I don't think it is any better than Buck's. Buck has the 420HC thing pretty much mastered. That said, I don't think S&M's heat treat is much worse than Buck's. It seems about the same to me- pretty good. What you are getting with S&M, as opposed to Buck, is a much higher level of fit & finish. S&M's are usually very well made. To Case's standards, or maybe a little higher. I have heard that the latest models aren't brought up to the same crazy mirror-finish that Schatt usually does, but I don't own any of these, so I can't say if this is a bad thing or not.

If you see a model that interests you, I say go for it! S&M makes beautiful knives that per form reasonably well. I own several that I like a lot. If you're interested in higher grade steel, their file & wire series is made with ATS-34.
 
I am able to get my S&M knives sharper than Buck
And they seem to stay sharper longer

Way ahead of Case SS
 
S&M make some really lovely knives - I mean drooling lovely. But they will use nonsense steel on a lot of their models. These are ones intended as non-use collector pieces I guess. I do wish they'd just stick with ATS34 across the board, like on the File and Wires. I'd certainly own a lot more of them by now if they did :D :D
 
I've been browsing something of their knives for when I can save up and buy another slip joint, and I'm wondering: how is their quality control? how sharp are the blades out of the box? and how is their back spring strength?
 
Threads merged. You may wish to take advantage of the "search" function to help you with your quest. There are many threads in this forum on Schatt & Morgan knives.
 
I had a S&M and it came razor sharp outta the box but I got rid of it because it was a 100% nailbreaker! :eek: I don't like a weak spring but I do like my thumb nails to stay attached when I'm opening my knives. LOL :D
 
I have a S&M large trapper from their F&W series that use ATS-34, and can verify that this knife came super sharp out of box. It held its edge through skinning and deboning 3 deer and 2 mouflon sheep....the patterns 2 blade design did'nt hurt in this dept. either:D Like I actually had 2 knives:thumbup:
 
Well,I sent one out today,for repair. The spring popped & snapped,on a two spring large muskrat I had. Basically an un used knife.
I have sent more than one other for repair,these were hairline pin cracks in bone. One lockback I had once,had been re done by them at the factory & it was the tightest I'd seen.
So,they make nice knives & they stand behind the stuff. It does not take too long in the event you send one back.
I'd say they're good knives. Slipjoints are mechanical devices. A knife that the blade/s fold. You'll need to expect some variation
-Vince
 
i personally don't care how sharp a knife is out of the box being that i am a professional sharpener. for collecting purposes i can understand that though. i just hope the 420 hc they used on the dogleg whittler i ordered holds an edge and doesn't roll over when sharpening it.
 
well i got it and it seems to be a pretty good knife. the 2 small blades on this knife have a very tiny little bit of play but, the main wharncliffe blade is really tight and has a snap like i have never seen and would easily cause you to need stitches if you got your fingers in its way when closing. the finish is so beautiful that i can hardly tell it is even real bone, and the keystone shield is classic and very nice to look at. i know there are plenty of people who would probably put this knife away and not use it but, i have decided to put it right into my edc rotation.
 
buckgen5 said:
well i got it and it seems to be a pretty good knife. the 2 small blades on this knife have a very tiny little bit of play but, the main wharncliffe blade is really tight and has a snap like i have never seen and would easily cause you to need stitches if you got your fingers in its way when closing. the finish is so beautiful that i can hardly tell it is even real bone, and the keystone shield is classic and very nice to look at. i know there are plenty of people who would probably put this knife away and not use it but, i have decided to put it right into my edc rotation.
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Please post pics when you can, I'd love to see it.:thumbup:
 
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