School boys survival kit-what went wrong ?

[pitdog]

I don't consider myself all that old but even I can remember back to school days when if you asked a boy to empty out his pockets there would most likely be:

A pen knife,
Shoelace,
Few coins,
An eraser,
Stick of gum,
Couple of marbles,
Fluff/Fuzz...there was always some of this although on here we call it tinder !

This schoolboy survival kit often varied slightly but the pen knife was usually a mainstay, what's gone wrong with this crazy world ????

 

[silenthunterstudios]

When I was a kid, my father would tell me to remember to make absolutely sure I didn't have my knife in my pocket when I went to school. I would get in trouble.

He tells my little brother the same thing, but these days my lil bro would get expelled, thrown in juvie, and my parents would get put in jail.

 

[siguy]

Part of the issue, perhaps, is that alot of kids I see aren't as active outdoors. Even those that are, though, don't seem to have any reason to carry a knife. As long as it works for them...

When I was younger I always had my pockets filled with junk, and as soon as I was allowed, a knife. But then, I have ended up here, huh?

EDITED to add:
forgot to mention: for the last three and a half years of my highschool career (which ended this past june), I carried a knife my pocket. Noone at school ever knew. Simple as that. It's not that I really expected to need my knife in school, but 60% of the time I rode my bike to and from school, and I didn't always go straight home afterwards. I did see a few kids walking around with clips, which I think is a bad idea in that environment, but apparently the only people that every got in trouble were those that pulled the knife and threatened someone.

 

[seth]

it was expressly against school rules to carry anything with an edge... dad gave me an opinel, i carried it every single day at school.. i only graduated 9 years ago, but today, id probably get arrested/front page of the newspaper if i was found with that

 

[WVHILLS]

As recently as 2002 it was un-officially accepted at my highschool that most of the "good ol boys" had a small folder on them, of course it was a small school with only about 100 in my graduating class. We also un-officially cancelled class on the first day of deer season lol.

 

[dawsonbob]

When I was a kid (late '40's and '50's) it was just taken for granted that any boy would have a pocket knife on him. I can remember more than one occasion in school when a teacher would borrow a knife from one student or another to open a package or something, and no one thought anything of it.

My, how times have changed.

 

[Entreri]

As recently as 2002 it was un-officially accepted at my highschool that most of the "good ol boys" had a small folder on them, of course it was a small school with only about 100 in my graduating class. We also un-officially cancelled class on the first day of deer season lol.

Same here, down to the word.. I graduated in '08, so not much has changed in those 6 years.. Depends on area though. All of our male teachers had knives clipped to their pockets, except for our vice principal, who carried a buck 110 and could be found openly peeling an apple with it nearly every day at lunch. Guess that's what you get when your whole school district is made up of gravel roads and corn fields. I definitely couldn't complain.

 

[Thomas Linton]

My 5th Grade teacher had arthritis and borrowed my pocket knife to sharpen the extra-fat pencils she had to use (too fat to fit sharpener). Not that it was the only choice amongst the boys in class. It WAS sharp.

 

[raylaconico]

I started carrying a pocket knife when I was around 8 or 9 years old but I wasn't allowed to carry it in school. It was usually a SAK or a cheap slipjoint. Most people these days see a knife as a weapon and not a tool. Just today I wanted to give my 19 year old nephew a knife but his mom doesn't want me to because she's afraid he doesn't need a weapon. It's pretty sad the way people think of knives these days IMO.

 

[dawsonbob]

It really is a sad commentary on today's society. If you have a screwdriver, and you're not carrying a toolbox, people today get all freaked out about the "weapon." When did people start thinking "weapon" first, rather than "tool"?

 

[Bushman5]

I don't consider myself all that old but even I can remember back to school days when if you asked a boy to empty out his pockets there would most likely be:

A pen knife,
Shoelace,
Few coins,
An eraser,
Stick of gum,
Couple of marbles,
Fluff/Fuzz...there was always some of this although on here we call it tinder !

This schoolboy survival kit often varied slightly but the pen knife was usually a mainstay, what's gone wrong with this crazy world ????

i can answer that pitdog........knives are weapons. Thats how they are portrayed in the media and by the schools. Knives are not tools anymore. You dont need one. You are a threat to everyone if you have a knife and must be dealt with by the Police. You need to sit down and shut up and play with your ipod , cell phone laptop etc. Be a good little student, dont think for yourself, pay your taxes and dont fight back if your ever assaulted. Be a good little meek wage slave person. We will take of you.

Some schools do not even allow the teachers to have scissors in the classroom.

that is why you dont see ye old pocketknife in the pockets of kids anymore. Hell, even some scout groups BAN knives, even the SAK.


you and I are about the same age. I gre up carrying a fixed blade and a sak to school every day. No one freaked out. It was normal. I would be shot on the spot today by SWAT if I was in a school with those tools. hell there is even talk in my fathers school of shutting down the metal shop program and woodworking programs, because the Administrators think all the tools int he shop could be used as weapons.

 

[SouthernCross]

G'day Pit

...
This schoolboy survival kit often varied slightly but the pen knife was usually a mainstay, what's gone wrong with this crazy world ????

They have upgraded their PSK's to mobile phones, MP3's & PSP's (essential "survival" items for the modern school kid ).



Kind regards
Mick

 

[storl]

I always had a knife in my pocket or backpack, from about 4-5 years old until today. During high school, it was a SAK Classic, since knives under 1.5" or somewhere around there were allowed. These days, I don't think you can bring anything at all to most schools, thanks to zero tolerance policies.

Of course, there's no problem bringing hockey sticks, baseball bats, etc. to schools. It's too bad school administrations do not realize that a knife is not a weapon until you make it one, same as everything else.

 

[Cpl Punishment]

Ah the good ol' days.

Graduated in the 90s.

I dunno, must have happened after my time, cuz when we were little (like in grammar school) we all had some kind of slipjoint on us (for me it was my Boy Scout knife, I was envious of kids with their SAKs). Later, into and through high school, my Buck 110 and I were joined at the hip. Hell, during deer season, you'd see shotguns in the racks in the back window of just about every truck in the parking lot -- students and faculty alike.

I imagine the other guys that carried knives to school had similar experiences as me, in that we'd still get into fights at school, but no one ever drew their knives. I think the worst thing to do, especially with kids is to make something forbidden. Seems kids that aren't allowed to be around knives and guns are the ones most likely to use them irresponsibly, and that, I think, is the real tragedy of the nanny state.

 

[Brian Andrews]

My friends dad still tells us stories of them taking their 22's to school. Put them in the closet and then would go hunting after school.

Yup.....we have pretty much screwed ourselves :grumpy:

 

[dawsonbob]

I imagine the other guys that carried knives to school had similar experiences as me, in that we'd still get into fights at school, but no one ever drew their knives. I think the worst thing to do, especially with kids is to make something forbidden. Seems kids that aren't allowed to be around knives and guns are the ones most likely to use them irresponsibly, and that, I think, is the real tragedy of the nanny state.

:thumbup::thumbup:

 

[koyote]

When I was a kid, my father would tell me to remember to make absolutely sure I didn't have my knife in my pocket when I went to school. I would get in trouble.

He tells my little brother the same thing, but these days my lil bro would get expelled, thrown in juvie, and my parents would get put in jail.

I always carried a pocketknife to school. and I wasn't by far the only one.


Of course, I took my shotgun to school once a week, too. Gun locker was in the chem lab.

 

[BarberFobic1992]

my school carry:

-pen and pencil
-phone
-wallet
-tin with gum, LED, steel wool and charcloth
-Fatwood
-LMF steel with striker
-Bandana

If I still went to a more rural school system, I would carry a knife, because they are a little more laid back about that kind of thing. But, sice I am currently in a larger system that has had a few serious problems with violence (not at my particular school, just in the system) I opt not to carry a knife. On days that I go on a trip during school for a college visit or somthing, I bring a few more simple supplies to put in my backpack.

 

[txmoonwolf]

I gradumanated in '90, and carried my SAK thru most of high school. One of my friends used it once to sharpen his pencil in class, where we didn't have a regular sharpener mounted anywhere. I was in Key Club, and stayed after school for various projects, and my knife came in plenty handy then. Our adviser knew I had it (he was also my calculus teacher) and he never said anything about it.

The only time I ever saw a knife used as a potential weapon, some girl on the bus had a little pen knife out and open in her fist in her lap, mad as hell, I guess from a fight with her boyfriend or another girl or something, tears were running down her cheeks and she just glared straight ahead for the ride home. I was a little afraid, because I didn't know what might set her off, she had sat across the aisle from me, next to one of my friends, who I later remarked to that "I didn't want to smoke around the powderkeg" that day, after exchanging worried looks several times.

Matt in Tx

 

[cuphead]

I always had a knife in my pocket or backpack, from about 4-5 years old until today. During high school, it was a SAK Classic, since knives under 1.5" or somewhere around there were allowed. These days, I don't think you can bring anything at all to most schools, thanks to zero tolerance policies.

Of course, there's no problem bringing hockey sticks, baseball bats, etc. to schools. It's too bad school administrations do not realize that a knife is not a weapon until you make it one, same as everything else.

I find it funny you mention the baseball bats/ hockey sticks. when I was on my way back from playing softball with my daughter today, I got pulled over for doing 43km in a 30zone. big whoop. and the mit and the bat were on the backseat, I got all sorts of funny questions!:jerkit: