School boys survival kit-what went wrong ?

[powernoodle]

what's gone wrong with this crazy world ????

The nuclear family and traditional American values have been under assault by a large, though minority, segment of the social/political spectrum. The natural results are obviously deleterious (as intended), and include the emasculation of men, an intentional blurring of normal gender roles, and children who wander through life like zombies with no boundaries, goals or core values to guide them.

With no moral framework to constrain adolescent behavior, kids turn to bad behavior, and "bad" kids (who would otherwise be good kids if provided a moral framework during their development) are barred from carrying "dangerous" pocket knives to school. And instead of properly blaming the loss of a value-based society for these ills, the very people who encourage the breakdown of familial structure now blame inanimate objects like pocket knives for the society ills we now see.

 

[Foilist]

I carried a SAK Huntsman through most of my childhood and early adulthood, including at school (I graduated high school in '89). It was never an issue because I didn't f**k around with it, and it came in handy countless times.

Now I am a high school teacher, and from 2000-2007 I taught at a rural, regional school. It was not unusual to see some of the farm kids with a Buck 110 on their belts sometimes, and it was never an issue. Currently I teach at a more urban school where you don't see much knife-carrying.

I always have a multitool in my bag and a small, traditional slipjoint in my pocket when at work, and both have saved the day plenty of times.

One time in the factulty break room, a particularly obnoxious teacher saw me opening a package with my Case Peanut and made some sort of comment about how I looked like Norman Bates in "Psycho." Of course, there was a giant chef's knife on the counter which she completely ignored. What a twit.

 

[Don Rearic]

One of the reasons I wrote that article I linked to on the prior page was because I remember hiding the pocketknives of friends who were not allowed to possess pocketknives because they had an overbearing, liberal mother and a de-balled father. One in particular was a very, very sad case. His mother really wanted him to play with his slightly younger sister, constantly, as opposed to going out and being a boy in the woods, etc. It's like The Decline of Western Civilization.

 

[Don Rearic]

Now I am a high school teacher...

How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Bushman5]

The nuclear family and traditional American values have been under assault by a large, though minority, segment of the social/political spectrum. The natural results are obviously deleterious (as intended), and include the emasculation of men, an intentional blurring of normal gender roles, and children who wander through life like zombies with no boundaries, goals or core values to guide them.

With no moral framework to constrain adolescent behavior, kids turn to bad behavior, and "bad" kids (who would otherwise be good kids if provided a moral framework during their development) are barred from carrying "dangerous" pocket knives to school. And instead of properly blaming the loss of a value-based society for these ills, the very people who encourage the breakdown of familial structure now blame inanimate objects like pocket knives for the society ills we now see.

best post ever on the subject! :thumbup:

 

[Getahl]

I attended HS in a suburb of Los Angeles, and didn't carry a knife with me on campus. Graduated in '99. The only two knives that I owned at the time were a SAK Tinker and acheap, POS "boot knife" that resembled the one in Big Trouble in Little China. Picked it up at a swap meet for 10$. I think I hid it in my backpack once, when I wanted to bring it over to a friend's house to show him. Didn't think to leave it in my Jeep Cherokee, for some reason, but didn't get caught.

I never thought that endangered my ability to graduate was worth carrying a pocket knife to school. I fully plan on educating my kid(s) on how to safely use a knife, and definitely encourage them to carry one otherwise, but I don't want them carrying at school because of California's zero-tolerance laws toward carry.

 

[blgoode]

I always had a knife on me. hell - At one time I was sporting a diving knife on my leg under my jeans

Its sad now - My son even had to take my knifemakers business card I had printed up out of his wallet to take it to school!!!!! Different Times for sure.

 

[Don Rearic]

Its sad now - My son even had to take my knifemakers business card I had printed up out of his wallet to take it to school!!!!! Different Times for sure.

You mean he has to take your business card out of his wallet in order to take his wallet to school because the business card as a printed picture of a knife on it, correct?

 

[Bushman5]

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Originally Posted by blgoode View Post

Its sad now - My son even had to take my knifemakers business card I had printed up out of his wallet to take it to school!!!!! Different Times for sure.
You mean he has to take your business card out of his wallet in order to take his wallet to school because the business card as a printed picture of a knife on it, correct?
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thats almost as bad as the kid that drew a picture of a knife while in school...he had been hiking with his dad on the weekend and the following Monday the teacher asked the kids to draw a pic of what they did on the weekend. Kid drew a pic of him and his dad hiking, and drew a knife on each of their belts. The teacher was horrified, sent the kid to the Principal, kid was "assessed" by the school shrink and expelled. Family services tried to seize the kid bla bla bla

i'll try to find the link.

 

[Cpl Punishment]

Don, I love reading that article.

Man, I'm only a few years younger than you, and I remember having all of that stuff!

The collection of Case knives I used to have! Man, I'd pick them up everywhere. I don't even remember where most of them came from. Some my dad brought home. Knives kin my dresser drawers, under my pillow, in various boxes all over the house. . .

You also bring back memories with cigar boxes. The ones I used were Muniemakers. Screw the Altoids tins, you COULD put a survival kit in a cigar box! And damn, those pencil sharpener/pencil box/sliderules I think I got a new one every year. It was kinda cool, my Aunt would give me a new one packed with pencils every year in grammar school.

Don't forget the metal suprehero lunchboxes that carried everything but our lunch!
We used to stuff them full of Matchbox and Hot Wheels cars for illicit trading and running around the intricate superhighway systems we built on the playground at recess.
Of course we knew the Matchbox guys were The Boys, and the Hot Wheels guys were wannabe phonies.

The cap guns we had shootouts with. . .
Mom letting her little darling walk out the door with a .22 rifle and a box of ammo.

And Real Men were decided by who had the most shit packed in their tackle boxes, and who had Penn reels versus Zepcos.

Feeling like Da Man (before such things as "Da Man" were invented) because you brought your hard earned dollar ($1) into the general store and walked out with a Kit Kat bar, a Coke (in the glass bottle, and you felt like such a big boy when dad finally let you open it yourself on the bottle opener on the machine), and two (!) boxes of .22LR.

 

[Don Rearic]

That three-parter, it's three years old this fall, I think.

I might even put a part four on it this fall. I don't know yet.

Isn't it amazing though? The more we keep listening to the social engineers, the worse everything becomes? No matter what, they absolutely refuse to admit that they are wrong! We're still arguing about concealed carry laws! It's DONE, it's proven, the gun control people are wrong, but the argument continues on because we're dealing with mentally ill people. They're delusional and I hope that doesn't offend anyone if they should have a wife or something that is anti-gun or anti-knife or whatever, but it is true, it's mental illness. Fear, a phobia, to that degree, to the point where you want to change school policies to reflect a zero tolerance attitude towards drawings and whatnot...yes, it is mental illness. If it is not mental illness as part of a phobia, it is a mental illness when you consider the degree of control they wish to exert over their fellow Citizens...or Subjects, for you Canadians and Brits.

 

[MikeH]

I don't consider myself all that old but even I can remember back to school days when if you asked a boy to empty out his pockets there would most likely be:

A pen knife,
Shoelace,
Few coins,
An eraser,
Stick of gum,
Couple of marbles,
Fluff/Fuzz...there was always some of this although on here we call it tinder !

This schoolboy survival kit often varied slightly but the pen knife was usually a mainstay, what's gone wrong with this crazy world ????

BB's. You forgot the BB's. My mother always complained about the loose BB's in the machine when she did the laundry.

I always carried a knife, even to school. No problem. In fact, in high school vo-ed, it was a real plus with the instructor if you had an available knife. Ah, the good old days.

 

[dawsonbob]

If it is not mental illness as part of a phobia, it is a mental illness when you consider the degree of control they wish to exert over their fellow Citizens...or Subjects, for you Canadians and Brits.

I think that — increasingly — "subjects" works just as well for US citizens, too. God help America, because the liberals sure won't.

 

[pimpnugget]

I would trade my ipod and psp to be able to carry at school.

me to

 

[texasred66]

+1 powernoodle.:thumbup: This post is a sad tale of the decline of common sense and a great country. zero tolerance is a method used to avoid making a decision. One size does not fit all!

 

[Masteroffajitas]

A kid had the police officer pull her out for having a sak classic sd on her key chain in my school. When I lived in Texas.

 

[Todd A]

Now I am a high school teacher, and from 2000-2007 I taught at a rural, regional school. It was not unusual to see some of the farm kids with a Buck 110 on their belts sometimes, and it was never an issue. .

I graduated from Plainfield High in 1987. Every male student, and some of the girls, had a pocket knife. Some had Buck 110's on their hip.

My son now goes to Eastford and doesn't dare carry a knife, and wishes times were like the days Dad went to school.

 

[ZombaiO]

Are there metal detectors in the US schools ?

 

[luckykitty]

Like several others here, I always had a pen knife (a SAK style one) in school. And I wasn't the only girl, and half of the boys had a knife too. It never occured to us that a knife might be a weapon, it was a tool for this and that, and we would use the knife to share our lunches.
When a teacher asked about it, I told him I was a scout and that was it.

 

[dougo83]

A kid had the police officer pull her out for having a sak classic sd on her key chain in my school. When I lived in Texas.

Where was this? We all carried knives to school down here. My college buddies and I were actuall talking about how stupid the skool system has become on this subject. We all lived in relatively large metro areas and never caught any flak for knives at school...