Schrade Extreme Survival SCHF4

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KEmSAT-Survival said:
If MW put that knife through what he says he did and it held up as good as an expensive production/custom, then I'm sold. Doesn't bother me in the least if he has an arrangement to test Taylor's stuff.
All that says to me to is that they're willing to have somebody beat the hell out of their stuff in order to make a better product.

Coghlan's Law: Anything else is always something better.

I don't like most of Taylor's stuff--point of fact, 98% of it--but I will admit that the last two knives MW has tested and talked about have impressed me.

If Taylor can make a good knife at a good price, for people who want to learn survival/bushcraft and have a dependable knife...then I'm all for it.

Thanks for review MW. Keep 'em comin'. I'm definitely considering that hollow handled knife of theirs, thanks to you.

BTW: just how good a pals are you with them at Taylor? Any influence on materials, shape, grind, etc...?
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Not exactly pals. Just giving feedback. Hoping I give enough that I get challenged to design.
 
Given Taylor is only the importer, is this knife made in Germany or is it a Chinese copy of the German Army knife made by Eickhorn? Must be a country of origin on it someplace
 
Sidehill Gouger said:
Given Taylor is only the importer, is this knife made in Germany or is it a Chinese copy of the German Army knife made by Eickhorn? Must be a country of origin on it someplace
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Excellent question, had the same one myself and didn't know how to phrase it!
Thanks for asking this one...
 
I have bought doubles of the 1st 2 models and they really are good quality tough blades. Are they copies? Sure but a lot of productions are copies of great designs somehow. For the money they are great users and abusers that you don't feel guilty about scratching or using the heck out of. This one I will not get because I do not like the tanto style blade.
 
KEmSAT-Survival said:
If MW put that knife through what he says he did and it held up as good as an expensive production/custom, then I'm sold.
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Now you are putting words in my mouth. I never compared this knife to anything. I said it came very sharp and didn't loose it's edge too quick, didn't get a rolled edge in fact it still shaved after a bit of chopping in some hard seasoned Birch, that it felt pretty solid, but had some sheath issues. That it was a decent knife especially when you weighed in the cost.


Sidehill Gouger said:
Given Taylor is only the importer, is this knife made in Germany or is it a Chinese copy of the German Army knife made by Eickhorn? Must be a country of origin on it someplace
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No origin on the knife but, and not to sound sarcastic, at $37.00 on line what do you think.

Who knows who has who make what for whom anymore? Everything is so globalized it's hard to keep up. Even Marto of Spain made some of our M-9 bayonets but could only put their name on ones sold commercially in Europe, their name was left off all the others.

The day China can compete with Germany on Quality in the knife and steel industry will be an interesting day indeed for me.
 
mistwalker said:
Now you are putting words in my mouth. I never compared this knife to anything. I said it came very sharp and didn't loose it's edge too quick, didn't get a rolled edge in fact it still shaved after a bit of chopping in some hard seasoned Birch, that it felt pretty solid, but had some sheath issues. That it was a decent knife especially when you weighed in the cost.
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Then I'll appologize for that.
It was not my intention.

It's true you didn't compare it to anything other than itself.

My mistake. :thumbup:
 
Not something I would use,no matter where it came from or who made it.
I'm just not a fan of Tanto points or serrations.

Nice review though & thanks for posting it:thumbup:

Cliff
 
"Not to sound sarcastic," but if there isn't a country of origin on the knife someplace it sounds like just one more corner Taylor Cutlery was willing to cut. It seems to be an exact copy of the German knife if it wasn't made by Eickhorn.
 
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Sidehill Gouger said:
"Not to sound sarcastic," but if there isn't a country of origin on the knife someplace it sounds like just one more corner Taylor Cutlery was willing to cut. It seems to be an exact copy of the German knife if wasn't made by Eickhorn.
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I'm certain it's either made in China or Taiwan as all but a little of Taylor's stuff is made in the orient with a little of it made here.

I am confused on this as I thought import laws required the country of origin to be on the knife it's self...unless that has changed during all this globalization...I spend a lot of time in on the side of a mountain in the woods behind my house, I don't watch t.v.

Then again some of what I get are prototypes, some may be in between proto and production...it is a new line, I'll have to enquire about that.
 
Mistwalker thanks for another great review.

Perhaps my Google-fu is weak but I can't find any info about CR7 :o Maybe you could find out more about it through Taylor.
 
Not sure that I'd want a tanto as a survival knife. But I thought the review was well done.

Thanks for the posting it.
 
mistwalker said:
I am confused on this as I thought import laws required the country of origin to be on the knife it's self...unless that has changed during all this globalization...
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I was too... but apparently not. I have a COLT brand knife that was given to me many years ago. It is a truly well made giant fighting bowie type of knife, great design, good balance, great sheath. My buddy assumed it was made in the USA (Colt Firearms, New Haven, right?) so that was the reason he bought it. He paid about $40 bucks for it. On the blade on a tiny, hard to see, easily removed clear back sticker; "Hand made in Taiwan".

I just bought a Gerber Freeman PE hunter as a pack knife about a month ago. It was a closeout at a local store. The blade, handle and the sheath were not marked. According to the store knife guy, that was because unless otherwise noted, all Gerbers without a Chinese stamp were made in Oregon.

I had read enough good about this little knife I thought for $25, I would take a chance. After reading around here, I was confused about what steel the blade was actually made from. I thougt it was AUS6 (knowing Gerber) but it is actually pretty damn hard. I called Gerber. As one member here indicated - it was indeed their spec of AUS8. BUT - the knife was made in Taiwan.

The Gerber folks cleared that up by having me look at the cardboard box - it says that on the box only. No other notifications.

So I guess these guys can do whatever they want as long as somewhere along the line they let you know somewhere on the product or packaging.

Hurray for Spyderco for putting it up there on the Tenacious for all to see. I appreciate that kind of open disclosure, and a manufacturer that doesn't even attempt to veil the country of origin or the materials used.

I appreciate the reviews, MW. Personally, I find your lack of school girl gushing over a brand of knife refreshing. Seems like you give the tools pretty fair treatment when you review them as well.

When my nephew comes of age (soon) I can see a "beater" on his belt, and these are the kinds of knives I will be looking for. One that can take punishment, and still be usable will be the ticket. He isn't a knife guy... yet.
So a larger knife (affordable) that he can use to whack on weeds, dig in the dirt, and chop up small branches for a campfire will be in order, something like the ones you are reviewing. He will learn about care and use better cutting instruments as he goes along.

Keep up the good work.

Robert
 
knarfeng said:
Not sure that I'd want a tanto as a survival knife. But I thought the review was well done.

Thanks for the posting it.
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Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the review. I personally know I'd only want a tanto in a survival environment in a combat zone, but that's just my opinion and we all know what is said about opinions......everybody has one.


midnight flyer said:
I was too... but apparently not. I have a COLT brand knife that was given to me many years ago. It is a truly well made giant fighting bowie type of knife, great design, good balance, great sheath. My buddy assumed it was made in the USA (Colt Firearms, New Haven, right?) so that was the reason he bought it. He paid about $40 bucks for it. On the blade on a tiny, hard to see, easily removed clear back sticker; "Hand made in Taiwan".

I just bought a Gerber Freeman PE hunter as a pack knife about a month ago. It was a closeout at a local store. The blade, handle and the sheath were not marked. According to the store knife guy, that was because unless otherwise noted, all Gerbers without a Chinese stamp were made in Oregon.

I had read enough good about this little knife I thought for $25, I would take a chance. After reading around here, I was confused about what steel the blade was actually made from. I thougt it was AUS6 (knowing Gerber) but it is actually pretty damn hard. I called Gerber. As one member here indicated - it was indeed their spec of AUS8. BUT - the knife was made in Taiwan.

The Gerber folks cleared that up by having me look at the cardboard box - it says that on the box only. No other notifications.


I appreciate the reviews, MW. Personally, I find your lack of school girl gushing over a brand of knife refreshing. Seems like you give the tools pretty fair treatment when you review them as well.

When my nephew comes of age (soon) I can see a "beater" on his belt, and these are the kinds of knives I will be looking for. One that can take punishment, and still be usable will be the ticket. He isn't a knife guy... yet.
So a larger knife (affordable) that he can use to whack on weeds, dig in the dirt, and chop up small branches for a campfire will be in order, something like the ones you are reviewing. He will learn about care and use better cutting instruments as he goes along.

Keep up the good work.

Robert
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Thank you, I'm glad you appreciate the reviews. I feel the lower priced knives I test and that I feel are worth sharing have multiple places in the market place. For some they will be great beginner knives, for others that can't afford the highr end knives they are a functional option and some are good as secondary or back up blades when you need to do rough work but don't want to find out in the middle of nowhere if your $300.00 + knife is up to the challenge and you are not sure as you've never wanted to beat on it and see if it is. When I am in the field I usually have some knife to check out plus my EDC fixed and folder, but when I'm on extended trips into the woods with no other gear to test I have my fixed blade, my folder, and in my pack a short stout fixed blade for rough work even though my fixed blade has proven it's self over time. It's good to have a knife that will double as a pry bar at times to do things like dig holes, bust pine knots, baton, and dig out punk (trees sometimes pull stones up in them as they grow, this can be hard on the edge of your knife when you don't know it's there) The idea of one knife to do it all is always a nice fantasy...but in my opinion it is just that, a fantasy. Anything small enough to do detail work well is too small to chop with and vise versa. I like having options, it improves my quality of life in the bush.
 
PatriotDan said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KM2000

http://www.lbainternational.com/eickhorn/mk_km2000.htm
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Thanks for this...doesn't change that it is a copy of something that I have never seen before, but it does explain that the sheath is turnable for left or right carry and removes one of my major complaints now that I turned it around. Now the working ends of the straps face the "correct" way for me to carry on my right side. I didn't catch that it was turnable as the straps are not quite centered, and Ithought the sheath was monodirectional.
 
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