Schrade Kious Ser# 0007

Koldgold,

The way that knife came about is that Schrade hired an Industrial Design firm to come up with some new designs. I remember the meeting when they showed us what they came up with. They showed us a bunch of cool drawings that reminded me of concept car illustrations. The problem is that when I started putting them in CAD, there was no way it would work. The blades could not close and fit in the handles, and the cool shapes in the drawings had to be changed so much that they no longer looked cool. So I said that I couldn't make it work. My boss took it over and made SQ111 and there was another shape that came out with rubber inlay scales, but I don't remember the number. They look significantly different from the drawings we were shown, and though they technically work, in my opinion they weren't very good knives. Structurally speaking, the SQ111 had very weak handles, and the polycarbonate scale scratch just by looking at them.
So that is what I know of the Black Ice.
 
Thank You for the reply Davis, I have put a large collection of the last knives Schrade sold together; even the Badger that Schrade had made in China.
I have all the SQ knives with only one missing; the SQ111 Black Ice.
I do have the SQ222 and the SQ224, I also found a number of the SQ587s and a SQ877 cable-lock NIB for $10 each , there well designed knife.
Taylor started to sell a SQ587 and had them made in China. I found one on eBay to compair it to the Schrade, it was a very poor coppy..
I made up my mind may years ago I was not going to find a QS111, after I posted on some other forums " I would pay $300 for one....Ken.
The SQ111 did look good in the Flyers:
Have a look at this, it has my SQ887 and Dale's Spitfire.
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19482&hilit=+schrade+black+ice

kootenay joe, I should have a spare zipp-up poch for your knife.
 
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Davis, thanks for this info; so my Kious might have been one waiting to have serial # applied if this was the final step in finishing these knives.
Kogold, thanks for the offer of a zip pouch but as i lack the box & paper work, i don't think it is worth the expense of shipping from Australia. I would like to find the imitation ostrich leather carry 'purse'.
kj
 
That's a great picture of Harold Buley in action. I would agree, he is tops in his trade. He is also my Uncle and I visit with him whenever I get back up to New York, although we always talk knives, there never seems to be enough time for us to spend together. He has a great collection of Schrade Knives, as I do and we have even swapped knives and displays to compliment each others collections. I wish there were a way to extract all of the knowledge that he and my other family members gained while working at Schrade. My Mom, Dad, Uncle Harold and Uncle Barry had combined more than 120 years with Schrade. That's not counting my other family members that worked there. Schrade was a huge part of my family's history. I guess that's why I am so attached to the Schrade collecting, even though I didn't start until 2006. I am trying to preserve as much knowledge, documentation and knives as I can afford, just to keep this piece of Family History alive!

By the way kj, good looking Kious! Eric, thanks for posting that picture of Uncle Harold!

Tom
 
Always a pleasure Tom, I need to snap more pictures of the guys in action. Never think of it while I'm there. Speaking of Harold, I learned recently that the Third Generation knives got their name from the three generations of Buleys working at the factory (and on the knife design) at that time. How cool is that?

Davis thanks for that info, I think I might have a few of those drawings laying around here somewhere, I'll see if I can dig them up.

Eric
 
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