That sounds good. I look forward to see what happens with the new designs.
Take care
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Schrade SCHF42 Raven Is Discontinued
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That sounds good. I look forward to see what happens with the new designs.
Take care
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came today. had no experience with a Griffin designs prior. have plenty of schrades though....
very well throughout design. when I first saw this thread, visually it didn't appeal to me right away. after reading on the design and such it started to catch my eye. in the hand it is impressive. plenty of reviews by folks who do reviews.....so i wont bother with that. came sharp, decent bevels, and fit and finish quite good for the 40 or so bucks I paid. gonna put it to use it today...
what I really like is the ffg and blade shape and the very thick and strong tip on it.
what I dont like is the grivory scales are a bit slippery so gonna maybe rough those up. with micarta, huge improvement as a user.
very well throughout design. when I first saw this thread, visually it didn't appeal to me right away. after reading on the design and such it started to catch my eye. in the hand it is impressive. plenty of reviews by folks who do reviews.....so i wont bother with that. came sharp, decent bevels, and fit and finish quite good for the 40 or so bucks I paid. gonna put it to use it today...
what I really like is the ffg and blade shape and the very thick and strong tip on it.
what I dont like is the grivory scales are a bit slippery so gonna maybe rough those up. with micarta, huge improvement as a user.
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So do I. And thanks, you too Anthony.
Thanks for the good feedback. Yes I wanted the full flat grind for slicing and cutting capability, and the strong tip to still be able to survive abuses as long as possible before failure. I felt in 3/16 1095 it should work out well with the typical heat treat in the shop that does them. So far I have liked the end results on the geometries just fine. But I do wish the handle scale molds had a little more texture to. I hope it serves you well.
Works great for camp food prep
A close up of the SCHF42D along with a modded BK15
Cooking time
The best part... ...done one and ready to eat
Nice!! I really like this post a lot, it makes me smile. It reminds me of one my oldest daughter and I did as a weekend project about 10 years ago.
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bushkabobs.630712/
It dark and cloudy, looks rain so I need to set up my tarp and make a fire.
Needed some stakes for guy lines for my tarp
Not pretty feather sticks but they worked for getting a fire going in a hurry
Very cool! I like those stakes. Stakes for cammo netting and field of fire markers were among the things taken into consideration in the design of the 55. 'm really liking seeing all the in use shots!
Poaching some fatwood
The start on making a one stick fire
Wow, I haven't even split anything quite that big with them yet. I'd say that's probably maxing it out if not beyond.
Cool, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
This is a great thread, thanks for sharing
Mistwalker
! I've made a few purchases lately of some inexpensive fixed blade knives (including the schf36), and will be looking at the 42 and 55 now for future purchases. I really appreciate all of the insight you have provided to us on these.
Mistwalker
! I've made a few purchases lately of some inexpensive fixed blade knives (including the schf36), and will be looking at the 42 and 55 now for future purchases. I really appreciate all of the insight you have provided to us on these.
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This is a great thread, thanks for sharing
Thanks man, I'm glad you've enjoyed it! The 37 is okay and all, but the 42 has a more comfortable handle
Just sayin' 
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I had a talk with my brand manager at Schrade earlier and since some people have expressed a desire to have a sheath for the 42 that is like the sheath of the 55 we are looking into that to see if it is feasible to make a sheath like that which fits the 42 and 42D as well.
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it's good there will be, maybe choices. if only 1 version sheath can exist? I personally prefer the leather sheath.I had a talk with my brand manager at Schrade earlier and since some people have expressed a desire to have a sheath for the 42 that is like the sheath of the 55 we are looking into that to see if it is feasible to make a sheath like that which fits the 42 and 42D as well.
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I agree with jbmonkey, I like the sheath for the 42 and 42D also.
If anything, the handle scales on the 42 is where I see the most value in changing. Micarta on this knife would be amazing. At the very least, maybe change the color of the 42D scales. The brown doesn’t match the sheath very well. Even wood scales would be a nice improvement.
The 55 works great with the plastic scales and sheath, and looks good together as well.
Of course, this is just my opinion which ain’t worth much.
*Side note* I’m carrying the 42d on the belt today on a job I won the bid on. It’s a yard reclamation that is overgrown and needs trees cut and removed. These kind of jobs really test a sheath and knife combo... lots of re-sheathing, cutting/chopping/prying, and dirt/sweat.
If anything, the handle scales on the 42 is where I see the most value in changing. Micarta on this knife would be amazing. At the very least, maybe change the color of the 42D scales. The brown doesn’t match the sheath very well. Even wood scales would be a nice improvement.
The 55 works great with the plastic scales and sheath, and looks good together as well.
Of course, this is just my opinion which ain’t worth much.
*Side note* I’m carrying the 42d on the belt today on a job I won the bid on. It’s a yard reclamation that is overgrown and needs trees cut and removed. These kind of jobs really test a sheath and knife combo... lots of re-sheathing, cutting/chopping/prying, and dirt/sweat.
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yep. agree completely with you Sir. scales to micarta or stabilized type dymonwood over the plastic ones. this would mean more to me over a sheath change.
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I like the leather myself. Being old school and having some old school Schrades I love the old leather sheaths, but I've gotten a few complaints about the weak snap closures on the retention straps, and in my experiences so far they do seem pretty weak. I have a Golden Spike that was bought in the late 70s that has better security of the snap closure. So I would like to see the snap improved. I have been asked about a tactical style sheath from some guys who are soldiers in units who can carry larger knives, and some who are law enforcement personnel in rural areas where they can carry them. I would like to see a good option for these guys if possible.
I agree, I have never been happy with the color of the handle scales of the 42D, I wanted them more coyote brown to look more like natural micarta to start with. Whether or not micarta is doable in Taiwan now, or whether or not BTI will have more interest in, and / or more wherewithal to possibly affect such changes remains to be seen, and only time will tell.
Part of the feedback I got on the sheath of the 42 came from a personal local friend who was building a bike coarse in the mountains here. We live in a temperate rain forest, and he and his boss worked out in the rains during the spring and summer a couple of years ago. I had to get a kydex sheath for him because the leather did not hold up to those conditions as the snap failed first from all the mud when sheathing and re-sheathing while cutting scrub brush and what have you. That was part of the data that went into the design of the 55 sheath, which was in part meant for people who have to work under any and all conditions over time. So naturally I am looking forward to your long term feed back on the leather sheath as I know how much you use your knives in the field.
I would love to do micarta scales through Schrade, as long as the knives keep being made in Taiwan. I like the work the factories that make them do, and the quality level they produce. I don't want to mess with that aspect at all.
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I used this hard today and wore it on my belt all day.
Used it as a Hori-hori to dig up root balls in rocky soil. Perfect blade shape and thickness for this task.
Cut through very grungy carpet that had been outside on the ground for years.
Chopped branches off trees and also trimmed up Ti leaf and pannix.
Cut sisal rope to make load tie downs.
Batoned through a few pieces of wood to make stakes.
Things I noted:
The steel performed well, even after the abuse. I needed to run it across Arkansas stones to remove some chips and rolling...but this was expected from contacting so many rocks. I’m very pleased with the steel.
The handle is VERY comfortable, even when stabbing into the ground.
The scales did start to loosen. I have re-tightened them, they seem ok now. One fastener has started to strip and round out. It might be worth having male/female fasteners with one side being bedded in the scale.
The snap did come undone quite a bit. Mostly from going in and out of my truck all day. When sitting down, the leverage of the knife in the sheath pops the snap open. That said, it was easy to slide the knife in and out all day.
When it’s all said and done I’m very happy with the way this knife is performing...and especially the very low price.
Used it as a Hori-hori to dig up root balls in rocky soil. Perfect blade shape and thickness for this task.
Cut through very grungy carpet that had been outside on the ground for years.
Chopped branches off trees and also trimmed up Ti leaf and pannix.
Cut sisal rope to make load tie downs.
Batoned through a few pieces of wood to make stakes.
Things I noted:
The steel performed well, even after the abuse. I needed to run it across Arkansas stones to remove some chips and rolling...but this was expected from contacting so many rocks. I’m very pleased with the steel.
The handle is VERY comfortable, even when stabbing into the ground.
The scales did start to loosen. I have re-tightened them, they seem ok now. One fastener has started to strip and round out. It might be worth having male/female fasteners with one side being bedded in the scale.
The snap did come undone quite a bit. Mostly from going in and out of my truck all day. When sitting down, the leverage of the knife in the sheath pops the snap open. That said, it was easy to slide the knife in and out all day.
When it’s all said and done I’m very happy with the way this knife is performing...and especially the very low price.
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understood Sir. if its gonna be a plastic type sheath...please no frn/grn or fiberglass type plastics that dulls the edge. even those special forces fellas will appreciate that. not having to touch up everytime removed for use.
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Thank you very much for that feedback, your experiences are mirroring my own. I would love to see the leather sheath upgraded to a better quality sheath, and that wouldn't take much really, mainly just a better snap closure, but a little heavier weight leather would be nice too. One of the reasons I gravitated to knives that had longer blades than handles and were blade heavy was for less worry when leaving the retention strap unsnapped when working in one spot and drawing and resheathing the knife quite a bit for my work.
I knew there was no way I was going to get the do all be all knife produced in this price range, but I like that the shop that does the steel on these does a very good job with their heat treat. I studied that with the first design for almost four years, watching all the video and getting data from wherever i could before I was willing to go further with more designs through Schrade. I'm not ego driven, so I don't mind at all them being made in Taiwan to get good quality at a more affordable place. Taiwan only exists in its current state due to US and European involvement in their development since the end of WW-II for a number of reasons. It's a totally different situation than dealing with China. But I did want to make sure the quality was really there in the steel before putting more of my design work there name on anymore of them. I needed to know the product was a quality product. So far I have zero complaints for what is gotten, especially at this price point.
understood Sir. if its gonna be a plastic type sheath...please no frn/grn or fiberglass type plastics that dulls the edge. even those special forces fellas will appreciate that. not having to touch up everytime removed for use.
Ideally, I'd like to see both happen. I love to see the leather sheath improved to meet its potential, and then have a hard sheath offered separately for people who need the knives for that application. I'd like to see a hard sheath in which the knife locks in and then a secondary retention strap for the 42 and the 55 so they could then even be jump qualified. I've sent links to these threads to my brand manager, hopefully he is reading through all the different feedback for other people, which I feel is much more valuable than just my opinion alone.
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I am in talks with my Brand Manager at Schrade to get some of these Schrade models for a pass around if any of you who don't have them are interested in doing some open minded testing of he knives in the field, probably a 42 and a 55 since the 42D is pretty straight forward and likely speaks for itself as far as the design elements go.
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The production of this model by Schrade has been terminated due to the poor business practices of Battenfield technologies Inc., the new owners Schrade.
You Can See This Post For Details
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...en-discontinued.1602234/page-15#post-19290938
You Can See This Post For Details
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...en-discontinued.1602234/page-15#post-19290938
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