schrade walden ny usa 80t

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  1. jmc1980

    jmc1980

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    Jan 11, 2010
    Is anyone familiar with this knife? I would appreciate any information as I am not familiar with it. It is a schrade old timer with the tang on the clip point stamped schrade, walden, ny usa on one side and 80t on the other side. The clip point blade nail nick has a match striker. Here are some pictures I took. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] I'm not sure how to post these pictures so hopefully they go through. here is another attempt to show the pictures of this knife. schrade 1 schrade 2 schrade 3 schrade 4 If none of these pictures go through I hope the description of the knife is enough to date it. Thanks to anyone that can help me with this. Jeff
     
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  2. TheChunk91

    TheChunk91 Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 15, 2013
    I can't see your pictures, but I am assuming it's a delrin (plastic) handled knife. Bone 8OT's are scarce. A walden era 8ot would be made from the early 1960's to around 1973 when the walden name was dropped.
     
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  3. jmc1980

    jmc1980

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    Jan 11, 2010
    Thank you tc91. That answered my question.
     
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  4. TonySal

    TonySal

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    Jan 10, 2015
    An 8 old timer- nice, mine doesn't say USA but it doesn't say China!
     
  5. Codger_64

    Codger_64 Moderator Moderator

    Oct 8, 2004
    The Chinese knives are not marked China.
     
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  6. TonySal

    TonySal

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    Jan 10, 2015
    Some others brand I have are, It was just a thought cause it was close to the time of the move overseas... slightly bummed out at this time.
     
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  7. Codger_64

    Codger_64 Moderator Moderator

    Oct 8, 2004
    When Taylor first began importing Chinese copies of Schrades, I bought one by mistake. They also copied the Schrade packaging right down to the American flag. The knife was stamped differently than the real ones. But they did add an etch on the pile side.
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  8. koldgold

    koldgold

    Jul 2, 2010
    The first 8OTs with the Dalrin handles came out around 1962. The match-strike pull went to about half-way into 1972.
    The 1973 8OT didnot have the match-strike, and stamped U.S.A. N.Y.
    Some of the Taylar Brand were stamped "SCHRADE" some "SCHRADE 8OT" - never U.S.A.
    Hope that helps. Those early 8OTs came in a number of diferant boxes... Ken
     
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  9. jxr1197

    jxr1197

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    Dec 27, 2018
    The match striker lasted a little longer than the Walden stamp. I've tried to figure out when they went away but there's really no way to know for sure. In the pic below are three USA 8OTs with match strikers. The one in the center is the oldest. You can see it's got the USA but no pattern number - it's still on the back. Those are pretty rare and I don't know how long they were made. I have heard people theorize anywhere from 6-18 months after the changeover to USA. At the very least those ran into 1974 and maybe even into 1975, or beyond - who knows? Based on how few of them I have seen I'm guessing the run didn't last very long. The knife on the right is the complete last tang stamp with 8OT on the third line and the top grind completely gone but still has the match striker. That's a rare one. I don't know how long they made those. My guess is not very long at all. I haven't come across another one.
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    EDIT: Right after posting this I opened up ebay and the first thing I saw was one of the USA knives with the 8OT on the reverse. Here it is:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-TIMER-...475182?hash=item3d9574f52e:g:IroAAOSwXF5c-X~d
     
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  10. koldgold

    koldgold

    Jul 2, 2010
    Hi Tony,
    I have every 8OT knife Schrade made from 1961 to the non-production knives made in 2004.
    Any 4" made or sold by Schrade, is in my Collection.
    From about 1962-73, I have never been able to date the Walden knives - they did come in different boxes. The match-strike knives with the NY stamp ran out in about 1973-74
    My "Primble 935 Old Timers" were still selling in January 1971, [same as match-strike 8OTs]
    I have six of them NIB, one has the sales docket. Dated 12 Jan 1971 cost US$4:57 with tax.
    Camillus also made some of the 8OT blades, about 1973-75.
     
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  11. TonySal

    TonySal

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    Jan 10, 2015
    Thanks for the in depth and Expert post!!

     
  12. koldgold

    koldgold

    Jul 2, 2010
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