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My Cliphanger CH4FE
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By the way, it is not liner-lock, it is slip-joint with locking device, such as a TL-29 knife.
 
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I like Larry's comment alot and it touches on one of the reasons I hate Taylor Brands, the deception. Trying to fool people into buying a knife that they think is an Ellenville made Schrade.

"I know the country of origin is a sensitive issue with Schrade collectors and my response to Ray's comment was to bring that to the front. If Taylor bought the company out of bankruptcy and continued to manufacture in Ellenville he would have been regarded as a hero." -William Schrade

That quote by WS just about sums it up for me. If that had happened and Taylor Brands kept up the quality standards and such, just think how much forum space could have been saved for better discussions. It would have been little different than when the Baers bought out Schrade, Ulster, Imperial and Camillus. I've never heard of anyone taking issue with that. Only some confusion as to what projects got farmed out to one of the other Baer companies. But alas, Taylor took another route and is therefore vilified for doing so by most collectors and run of the mill, everyday Schrade users alike. I can only imagine what a shock it was to the Ellenville community, not only the closing of the factory but all their work, pride, product and contribution to the local economy being taken to China. Must have been a real hard pill to swallow.
 
As a young boy, with a machinist/ engineer father, I was told of the quality and pride that Americans took with everything they made.
I was told about the"." in U.S.A. and how Japan had sold items made in Japan, in a place they called USA. Fifty years ago, their quality was very poor.
My rifle scope was made in Japan, by an American Company - The American quality and pride of workmanship shows.

When we look at an item made by Imperial Schrade, it is not the best knife ever made.
However, the pride of workmanship shows , even when we look at a knife that sold for under $5 or $10.
Most of the collectors here on this forum, have not collected the SQ, Badgers or Cliphangers; I do, they are all part of Imperial Schrade.
I also have a small Taylor collation, I have dismantled to compare their construction.

I hope my collection of items made by Imperial Schrade, will one day find its' way back to America.
My collection is about the people and dedication they showed, while producing a mass-produced knife for every-day use.
 
I like Larry's comment alot and it touches on one of the reasons I hate Taylor Brands, the deception. Trying to fool people into buying a knife that they think is an Ellenville made Schrade.

"I know the country of origin is a sensitive issue with Schrade collectors and my response to Ray's comment was to bring that to the front. If Taylor bought the company out of bankruptcy and continued to manufacture in Ellenville he would have been regarded as a hero." -William Schrade

That quote by WS just about sums it up for me. If that had happened and Taylor Brands kept up the quality standards and such, just think how much forum space could have been saved for better discussions. It would have been little different than when the Baers bought out Schrade, Ulster, Imperial and Camillus. I've never heard of anyone taking issue with that. Only some confusion as to what projects got farmed out to one of the other Baer companies. But alas, Taylor took another route and is therefore vilified for doing so by most collectors and run of the mill, everyday Schrade users alike. I can only imagine what a shock it was to the Ellenville community, not only the closing of the factory but all their work, pride, product and contribution to the local economy being taken to China. Must have been a real hard pill to swallow.

I concur. Meanwhile, the goodwife and I got our new twenty-foot flagpole up yesterday and cemented in and ready for the flag, just in time for the Fourth of July. Irony: I think my only flag is MADE IN CHINA. But I assure you that will soon change. I hope that all the good folk here notes the implications. I always eagerly fly the flag to honor our heroes, and express my gratitude for the unequaled great fortune we have to be in this country. I might also opine that the greatest knives in all of history were made in this country, not just Schrade but many other esteemed old brands.
 
The Taylor Brand came up with a lot of patterns that don't carry on the tradition. And they used trickery in the beginning. The Fire and Ice Series commissioned to GEC were quite nice, but curious in their appearance. Too bad they abandoned that approach. The Camillus made versions were OK but sneaky. The Utica and Bear made knives didn't take off. The quality now does not uphold the Schrade or Baer name in the least. Won't find me using a single one, and I resent them being posted in this forum like they belong. Period.

The China made knives at the end of the run in 2003-2004 are not my cup of tea in the least because of the non traditional appearance (don't care to use them), but I don't take issue with Schrade USA making them, as Schrade USA was trying to survive, but a factor in the demise, at least in my opinion.
 
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