Scottish Scouts told to be prepared for jail over knives

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alfk said:
Its because its a country of cities, and cities suck. Englands knife laws aren't that bad in themselves they're similar and (on paper) less restrictive than many european countries, but the punishments seem unnecessarily harsh and not at all understanding. Couple with the fact that anybody can be searched for no reason, without reasonable suspicion
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This is completely bs. I don't know anyone in the UK who has been searched ever, and reasonable suspicion is definitely required.
 
meanwhile said:
Ok... As I already told you, hardly anyone in the UK carries anything bigger than a SAK while camping or hiking. Because in the de-forested UK that's enough to open a packet of dried food or fend one of the ferocious squirrels that might attack you. There is no "myriad of uses" for a larger knife. Really: I live here. Fire making isn't even a useful survival skill for hikers - the UK has some of the worst weather conditions for inducing hypothermia, but the risk spots are largely tree-less. I wish things were otherwise - I'd love access to the huge green spaces the US has - but this island is crowded.
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Clearly you have decided the "needs" of everyone therefore it should be law? Do you really not see the problem with this? For one there's little dispute that a fix blade knife is safer than a folder. For two don't support tyranny at any level.
 
The real problem here is the idea that one group of people can tell another group of people what to do. It's illogical. Your title, your badge, your costume does not change your moral or legal authority.
 
I won't pretend to even start to understand the knife laws of other countries, as the ones here in the US are already plenty confusing for me to wrap my head around. But from the UK bushcrafting sites that I have been on, it seems most guys carry fixed blade knives, hatchets etc. while out camping and it seems to be perfectly legal. From all the various videos and pictures I have seen, there are also open wooded areas in which practicing skills seems plenty viable.
 
syntaxerrorsix said:
Clearly you have decided the "needs" of everyone therefore it should be law?
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Ok: you are not smart enough to understand the law. The law says that if you DO have a need for a knife then you carry one. But no one does carry a knife while hiking or camping. ***These are two separate things!***

Do you really not see the problem with this? For one there's little dispute that a fix blade knife is safer than a folder.
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Yes, we have had all lost friends in SAK accidents.... Oh, the pain!

For two don't support tyranny at any level.
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So you're against the ban on private citizens owning ebola and sarin? Good!
 
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tknife said:
I won't pretend to even start to understand the knife laws of other countries, as the ones here in the US are already plenty confusing for me to wrap my head around. But from the UK bushcrafting sites that I have been on, it seems most guys carry fixed blade knives, hatchets etc. while out camping and it seems to be perfectly legal. From all the various videos and pictures I have seen, there are also open wooded areas in which practicing skills seems plenty viable.
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Yep. If you're camping old-style, instead of living the vida JetBoil, in an area where there is actual firewood, carrying an axe or a 9 inch bowie is fine. What the law says is Not Cool is playing "I Am Rambo!" because carrying a large knife makes you feel "all manly."

And really: carrying a 9 inch Bowie in the UK "Just because I might need it - in case I am attacked by bears"... Not *terribly* likely.
 
meanwhile said:
Ok: you are not smart enough to understand the law. The law says that if you DO have a need for a knife then you carry one. But no one does carry a knife while hiking or camping. ***These are two separate things!***



Yes, we have had all lost friends in SAK accidents.... Oh, the pain!



So you're against the ban on private citizens owning ebola and sarin? Good!
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You're an indoctrinated clown. Enjoy it, folks like you earned it.
 
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