Scouting knives

yes this is a good thread . personally- i have a cub, a scout and and an ex scout.
i have 4 camillus scout 4 blade knives( 2 cel 2 del)in the drawer. the boys have moras and vic german amy knives.
i don't think scouts australia is all that keen on knives at the moment .certainly not cubs anyway.
i asked the leader if he wanted a knife maintenance awareness night .i'm not sure he knew what i was taliking about . we made dijjeridoos instead out of cardboard material tubes.
any how keep em coming .
 
I just realized the OP said "Scouting knives" not "Scout knives" Ooopsss. I hope the community can support the pattern and the organizational knives together?

This is what I was talking about earlier. It's not perfect, but beautiful in her ugliness for certain. She did clean up nicely.
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And this is the tang stamp it bears.
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I hope you enjoy the pic's as much as I enjoy this knife.

-ron M.
 
No worries. Although the collection is from a Scouting museum, many of the pocketknives are generic "scout" pattern knives, not official Scout Knives.

Likewise, the collection includes many Scout knives that aren't scout-pattern knives. There are also hunting knives, axes and hatches, and eating utensils.

I love the worn bone on that Camillus. Someone must have really liked that knife. :)
 
Bob W said:
Sadly, no. I have no idea who makes the current Girl Scout Knives.

Both of the Girl Scout knives posted above are Kutmaster. Other Girl Scout knives in the museum's collection are Utica, Imperial, and Geo Schrade.

The majority of the official Boy Scouts of America knives are Camillus. Other brands include Victorinox, Buck, Case, New York Knife Company, Remington, Imperial, and Ulster.

I even have two that are Unknown - the knives are sealed in BSA clampacks with no mention on the packaging as to who made them. I think one is Imperial, and the other might be Camillus. Hopefully when I submit the photos to the scout knife website, the owner there will know on which page to categorize them.

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I love that Swedish scout knife. :thumbup:
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Slide a pic my way. Perhaps my time as Council Historian can be of use.
 
Bob W said:
Someone must have really liked that knife. :)
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I am pretty sure the previous owner was a devout knife user. Not a caretaker in any sense of the word, because he did put millage on his blades. I would like to think I gave this one a new life, and I am grateful it did not face a grinder like a few others that I received in the group purchase. I do like that mans taste in knives though, I tried to buy them all!
 
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IIRC, Colonial is making both Girl Scout and Cub Scout knives with the "Official" blade etching. Unfortunately, BSA National is not selling the Colonial Cub Scout knives on the main website (scoutstuff.org), just the Chinese made ones. I don't know about Girl Scout knives.

I wrote to BSA National about the Colonial made in USA knives and got a form letter back...
 
Sword and Shield said:
Slide a pic my way. Perhaps my time as Council Historian can be of use.
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Will do, if I can't figure it out. If they were mine I'd cut open the clampack and look. ;)

IIRC, Colonial is making both Girl Scout and Cub Scout knives with the "Official" blade etching. Unfortunately, BSA National is not selling the Colonial Cub Scout knives on the main website (scoutstuff.org), just the Chinese made ones. I don't know about Girl Scout knives.

I wrote to BSA National about the Colonial made in USA knives and got a form letter back...
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Case had some beautiful BSA knives a couple of years ago. The quality was beyond other Case knives I'd purchased at the time, and they were certainly far beyond the average BSA offerings. Of course they were priced at a premium too, $10-$20 beyond a similar production Case. Some of that extra undoubtedly went to the BSA for licensing and some to Case for the extra production expense.

Victorinox also does BSA knives, and the quality is excellent as always.

The junkiest BSA knives I've seen in the collection are Scouting related but perhaps not Officially licensed from the BSA. One is a barely-functioning Chinese knife with a council's name, and the other is a low-quality China lockback with "National Jamboree" etched on the bolster. I'm unsure whether this second knife was sold as a Jamboree souvenir or if someone engraved it themselves.
 
ron_m80 said:
I just realized the OP said "Scouting knives" not "Scout knives" Ooopsss. I hope the community can support the pattern and the organizational knives together?

This is what I was talking about earlier. It's not perfect, but beautiful in her ugliness for certain. She did clean up nicely.
usaclean.jpg


And this is the tang stamp it bears.
usatang.jpg


I hope you enjoy the pic's as much as I enjoy this knife.

-ron M.
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Hey Ron
I dont mean to Hi-Jack the thred, I have the same knife, these knives have a bit of history. They were made between 1943 & 45 and were issued to U.S. Army troops (U.S.A.) headed off to the European theater. WWII version of the demo knife
 
I was able to spot them in Mr. Levine's book. I did not have the date so close however. Thank you for the post.
 
Bob W said:
The junkiest BSA knives I've seen in the collection are Scouting related but perhaps not Officially licensed from the BSA. One is a barely-functioning Chinese knife with a council's name, and the other is a low-quality China lockback with "National Jamboree" etched on the bolster. I'm unsure whether this second knife was sold as a Jamboree souvenir or if someone engraved it themselves.
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While they never passed up a chance to sell something with the Jamboree name on it when I was there in '97, I'd wager that's somebody's personal piece. The stuff from Jamboree always had the full name on it- (year) National Jamboree- or more commonly the logo from that particular one. Can't recall any knives from the '97, though.
 
ron_m80 said:
I just realized the OP said "Scouting knives" not "Scout knives" Ooopsss. I hope the community can support the pattern and the organizational knives together?

This is what I was talking about earlier. It's not perfect, but beautiful in her ugliness for certain. She did clean up nicely.
usaclean.jpg


And this is the tang stamp it bears.
usatang.jpg


I hope you enjoy the pic's as much as I enjoy this knife.

-ron M.
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I have one of those as well.

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It's a Camillus Engineer's pocket knife.

- Christian
 
I have one of the girl scout knives, but not in the shape of the one you pictured! Mine is well used, more like well carried, blades in good shape, but one bolster is sorta rough. I love the scouting knives even though that is the only one I own.
 
zippofan said:
IIRC, Colonial is making both Girl Scout and Cub Scout knives with the "Official" blade etching. Unfortunately, BSA National is not selling the Colonial Cub Scout knives on the main website (scoutstuff.org), just the Chinese made ones. I don't know about Girl Scout knives.

I wrote to BSA National about the Colonial made in USA knives and got a form letter back...
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Colonial represented that the Cub model was made in the U.S.A., and they were so marked. There was much talk by Colonial about their state of the art plant. Trouble is, no one can find the plant, just a rented space where trucks come and go. (You can look at it with Google Earth. No plant.). I have reason to know that some person(s) pointed this out to B.S.A. Then B.S.A. stopped selling the knives.

They were and are very nicely done. Just no reason to think they were made in the U.S.A.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Colonial represented that the Cub model was made in the U.S.A., and they were so marked. There was much talk by Colonial about their state of the art plant. Trouble is, no one can find the plant, just a rented space where trucks come and go. (You can look at it with Google Earth. No plant.). I have reason to know that some person(s) pointed this out to B.S.A. Then B.S.A. stopped selling the knives.

They were and are very nicely done. Just no reason to think they were made in the U.S.A.
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That's a bummer :( Their website is a bit vague too.

They must have never made it here to our Council shop, I've only seen the China knives there for about the last 10 years. And I understand the BSA decision to go with something relatively inexpensive, especially for Cub knives, given that a good percentage of them will be lost. Parents don't want to drop a lot of money on a pocket knife that has a good chance of going missing.

I bought my boys both Case and Swiss Army with BSA branding. They carry the SAK's more often to camp, probably because of the red handles and most of the boys in our Troop carry SAK's as well.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Colonial represented that the Cub model was made in the U.S.A., and they were so marked. There was much talk by Colonial about their state of the art plant. Trouble is, no one can find the plant, just a rented space where trucks come and go. (You can look at it with Google Earth. No plant.). I have reason to know that some person(s) pointed this out to B.S.A. Then B.S.A. stopped selling the knives.

They were and are very nicely done. Just no reason to think they were made in the U.S.A.
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False advertising...
No Colonial for me, until I find out where they are actually made.
most of the boys in our troop don't carry knives because one of the leaders thinks (quote) "knives have no purpose in modern society outside of camp, and even then you should use a pair of scissors." (end quote)
*CACKLE*
 
thatotherguy said:
False advertising...
No Colonial for me, until I find out where they are actually made.
most of the boys in our troop don't carry knives because one of the leaders thinks (quote) "knives have no purpose in modern society outside of camp, and even then you should use a pair of scissors." (end quote)
*CACKLE*
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Ugh...
Our Council camp has a prohibition on sheath knives, but that's it. Our Troop has no prohibition, leaving it to the common sense of the Scouts and their parents. Of course, the guys can't carry unless I know they have their Totin' Chip. We have a yearly "refresher" course on knife, blade and tool safety as well.

We only had one instance of trouble, during a Christmas gift exchange one of the guys got another a machete as a joke. After ensuring that the Scout's parents had possession of the machete we had a little conversation about what was and wasn't appropriate for a Scout. There hasn't been any such tomfoolery since. ;)
 
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