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Seal Pup vs Seal Pup Elite

Discussion in 'SOG Specialty Knives' started by ChrisF, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. ChrisF

    ChrisF

    66
    Dec 9, 2007
    What can I say, I liked my Seal Pup so much that I had to get the Elite too (the straight edge).

    Overall, I like it. The blade is thicker and it feels heavier in my hand. The weight makes your hand naturally wrap around it.

    But there are a few other things that I am curious about. The literature on SOG's site makes the differences between the knives sound more significant. It refers to a longer ergonomic handle with deeper finger grooves and a "Racy new blade shape" as well as a longer cutting edge.

    I've literally laid them back to back and side by side and can't see the above mentioned differences. They both measure out to about 9.25" whereas the literature says the pup is 9 and the pup elite is 9.5.


    Am I missing something?
     
  2. CorpsmanUP!

    CorpsmanUP!

    355
    Jun 11, 2007
    I love my pup elite. I need to have a good sheath made for it though. I don't like using the kydex except for diving and the nylon is too big to discreetly carry. the grinds are different. the pup is flat ground out of a thinner stock and the elite is hollowground out of a thicker stock. I could be mistaken but I think the elite is sub zero quenched as well.
    Perhaps Chris will be along soon to answer any questions.
     
  3. exidor

    exidor

    718
    Dec 30, 2006
    Seal pup elite is a great knife I have two of them one satin one blk tini bolth staight edge.bolth are 9.5 long.the only seal elite knife that is zero quenched is seal team elite,I have one, if you can get one,get it great knife! I think sog floped the marketing for there seal elite series by being silly(tjmo) I bought them cuz there knives speak for them selfs.If I could afford it I would have a wood block filled with seal pup elites in my kitchen
    I often use my satin elite at the dinner table(my wife doesn't understand)as far as the cutting blade I think it is closer to the handle than the frist pup.
     
  4. ChrisF

    ChrisF

    66
    Dec 9, 2007
    Point taken about the grinds being different. As I said, the heavier weight feels good in your hand. I really do prefer the straight edge, but wouldn't mind if we had serrations on the back of the blade as opposed to the rasp.

    I agree about the kydex sheath. I like it, but the offset at the top is a bit clunky. I wish that the kydex had a bit more of a positive grip to it. I've experimented with unscrewing the belt clip to mount it horizontally. It feels more comfortable, but I'm afraid of the knife slipping out. I've thought about taking the belt clip from my CRKT ABC to attach the sheath horizontally, but again, I am worried about retention. I notice that a lot of these Kydex sheaths have interchangeable parts. Anyone know of a place for a consumer to get them?

    A good option (for vertical carry) is SOG's leather sheath. Much more discreet and comfortable in my opinion. Just can't mount horizontally without a lot of jury-rigging.

    I think Chris from SOG had mentioned in another thread that they had seen a lot of great improvisations for carrying/mounting their knives. Have they considered a photo gallery to inspire other users?

    Finally, Why did they advertise a longer handle and longer cutting edge? For those of us who don' have a good local knife shop nearby, we depend on the manufacturers description to purchase online. I'm still very happy with the knife, just would have liked a more accurate description.
     
  5. Chris@SOG

    [email protected] Moderator Moderator

    903
    Oct 21, 2003
    The SEAL Pup vs Pup Elite sizes.

    I just pulled two random knives that I had near my desk. One SEAL Pup and one Pup Elite. Here are the differences as Illustrated in the image included.

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    1. The cutting edge is about 1/2" longer.
    2. The overall blade length is about 1/8" longer.
    3. The handle is about 1/4" longer.

    Hope this helps illustrate the differences and where we came up with the improvements.
     
  6. ChrisF

    ChrisF

    66
    Dec 9, 2007
    These are two photos of mine.

    [​IMG]


    As in Chris' photo from SOG





    [​IMG]


    Back to back


    There is an obvious difference in blade shape between my Seal Pup and the Seal Pup in Chris photos. Mine has a longer blade and the handle is thicker like the elite. The logos on Chris' knives and mine are obviously different as well. Are my logos newer or older than the ones that Chris shows?
     
  7. exidor

    exidor

    718
    Dec 30, 2006
    thats a seal pup elite with powder coating and no rasp.ask chris how many were made like that.or some one could have been playing around at the factory and you have a one of a kind? (hey chris whats up with this seal pup?)thats the same handle and blade shape.cool
     
  8. Chris@SOG

    [email protected] Moderator Moderator

    903
    Oct 21, 2003
    In order to meet increasing demand for the SEAL Pup knife we have started dual sourcing that model from both Japan and Taiwan. Both versions of the knife have the same lifetime warranty and are produced to the highest standards of SOG and the elite Special Forces community. Actually the secondary sourced SEAL Pup is very similar to a SEAL Pup Elite with out the spine rasp. It has the revised handle, thicker steel stock, and AUS-8 stainless steel. This explains the differences between the version I took pictures of and the version you have. To this date there has been a limited number of those produced.
     
  9. Carcajou

    Carcajou Banned BANNED

    98
    Feb 3, 2008
    What is the purpose of a spine rasp? i have file that on my seal pup elite special edition 2005 staight edge....and now its easy to plant,to perfore something.
    ps the seal pup with longer cutting edge and handle seems to be better,and look great.and sorry for my writhing its because im franco-canadian.
     
  10. ChrisF

    ChrisF

    66
    Dec 9, 2007
    Just wanted to thank Chris for his update.

    Both of mine are marked Taiwan on the blade.

    I had remarked about the kydex sheath not having enough of a positive grip. I had originally gotten that sheath with the seal pup. It fit both the pup and the pup elite.

    Something made me go out and get the sheath made for the elite and I have to say--it has a much, much more positive grip.
     
  11. Azis

    Azis

    Dec 4, 2002
    I would like to be clear on the difference which model has the thicker stock in AUS8 steel and does that come in the tiger stripe?
     
  12. johnu2

    johnu2

    942
    Jun 5, 2007
    The Seal Pup Elite has the thicker steel stock in AUS8, and according to Chris, there are some Seal Pups made in Taiwan that also have the thicker steel stock and AUS8 steel. Both versions come with a tiger stripe option
     
  13. Azis

    Azis

    Dec 4, 2002
    Thanks....of all the knives I own the only SOG I have is a twitch II I got at Blade last year which is a very nice little knife and has worked well so far.
     
  14. go2ndAmend

    go2ndAmend

    636
    Mar 8, 2008
    Does anyone know if the Seal Pup Elite is made with a non-serrated blade and tigerstriped?
     
  15. johnu2

    johnu2

    942
    Jun 5, 2007
    No problems mate. I've got the Twitch 2 as well its a great knife for sure. Perfect size for EDC

    I just had a look at the SOG website and it appears that the tigerstriped version only comes partially serrated
     
  16. Gaurdian_A1

    Gaurdian_A1 Gold Member Gold Member

    799
    Jul 28, 2009
    Hey, is the seal pup elite in your picture made in Japan? I noticed that the writing on the blade is different than on my seal pup elite, so i am assuming either that you guys updated the logo, OR the difference between the two differentiate which one is made it Taiwan VS Japan?
     
  17. nutz_about_knives

    nutz_about_knives

    386
    Aug 21, 2005
    The Seal Pup Elite was never made in Japan. It was always made in Taiwan. if you're referring to the one on top (Seal Pup) then I think the newer ones have the finger grooves on the guard...
     
  18. cheftothestars

    cheftothestars

    296
    Jul 28, 2009
    I have the Seal Pup elite, made in Taiwan stamped on it.
    My kydex sheath is attached to a velcro belt attachment is this new or just another option?
    Ill add a picture later.
     
  19. johnu2

    johnu2

    942
    Jun 5, 2007
    I think Gaurdian A1 was referring to the bottom knife (Sealpup Elite). It's an older Sealpup Elite without the SOG logo. I've got a black Tini one with the same font. And yeah, always been made in Taiwan
     

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