Search Function Work Around

There seems to be a lot of confusion here.... Using google as a workaround is an idea we are promoting; it doesn't put any load on the Bladeforums servers. The last thing we want to do is flame anyone who's helping people learn to use google. That is not circumventing the rules in any way; it is helping us.

We had to restrict search because the servers were so overloaded Bladeforums was becoming unusable, and search is the only thing that consumes a big share of CPU cycles that could be restricted.

A better way to solve the problem would be to buy new hardware, but that takes money, and raising money takes time. In the meantime the internal search function is restricted to paying members, but all users are very welcome to use google.

The sticky thread has much more information than this thread -- read it.
 
Who's making the money then?
Bladeforums is providing a service and people are paying for that service. Someone must be making the money/profit. If that's not a business then what is?

No, in fact Bladeforums is run at a loss and the loss is made up out of Spark's pocket. The same is true of all forums on the net -- they're all run at a loss, and the bigger the forum the more it costs.
 
I have been away from BF for quite a while ..... untill about ten days ago
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As I write this I am a "Registered User"..

I think I was a member a long time ago when I was active.... but can't remember for sure. Howeve,r when I get through with this post I will sign up as a member again.

Anyone who is a FREE user on here has no reason to complain about anything...... that's right ....... ANYTHING....... :)

We as "FREE users" ..... are a guest here..... remember that and forget the rest.

This IS NOT a Democracy....... you / we don't get a vote. To think otherwise..... IMNSHO ..... borders on insanity.......... ;)

The Basic Membership is $10 a year....
that works out to about... 2.74 cents a day.......... enough said.

Quit complaining and join.......

Support with a small bit of $$$$ what you enjoy.

Now, let's go join.

Any questions ????
Never mind....... I won't answer them anyway...... :D
 
Teacher,

Thank you for your sentiments but the replies here are not intended as a sales pitch or a means of getting people to financially commit to the site. That is for them to decide for themselves.

The fact is that we have experienced these bandwidth related growing pains causing the servers to slow down and Spark in testing the site found that by limiting access to the search function it allowed things to return pretty much to normal.

That said, apparently I was in error in thinking that the Google function would add additional drain to our system here. (I am no systems guy.) Cougar has explained that it doesn't and that's good enough for me as I'm sure he has a lot more knowledge in this area than I do.

Had one of the other members not felt it necessary to continue his argument ad nauseum despite our bandwidth related explanations, he'd have suffered no repercussions whatsoever. Our intent is not to limit rational and polite discussion or hide the truth.

What we will not abide is having our integrity and honesty impugned after explaining both here and in personal missives to the offending party that there is no financial motive or conspiracy in having temporarily (at this juncture) removed the search function for a segment of our membership.

I hope that's clear to all here and 'nuff said on that subject.
 
Who's making the money then?...

Someone must be making the money/profit....

If that's not a business then what is?

What it is is an amazing thing. You can believe it or not, but I will tell you what bf.c is: it is one man's passion.

Notice, please, that there is no advertizing on bf.c, none. No banners, no popups, no ads on the sides, none.

Bf.c is one of the acknowledged "big boards" on the Internet. It is currently the 306th most active discussion forum site on the internet according to www.big-boards.com. From a potential advertising standpoint, this is an enormously-valuable piece of cyber realestate. Spark could literally make a good fraction of a million bucks a year selling ad space on bf.c. And yet year after year after year he declines that opportunity.

Yet operating the 306th most active discussion forum site on the internet is not cheap. The servers that are needed to keep this place serving up the page rate that it does with hundreds of users online at any given time, 24/7, cost serious money. And administering them costs serious time and money too. I'm sure that just the electric bill to keep this place online is about $600 per year.

And that is to say noting of bandwidth.

Even the software used to run this place is purchased and requires license fees.

The income from sales of memberships covers some of those expenses. But I know that Spark ends up out-of-pocket on this little hobby project of his every year. And he pays. Why? Because he wants this place to be here. It is his vision. It is his passion. It is his project. And it is his gift to the internet and to the knife world.

It is an amazing thing. And, as a result, you can imagin why some people get upset when you come in here implying that this site is something else.

The search feature is very processor-intensive. It is the weakest point of the otherwise quite nice software that runs this place. We've been hoping for years that Jelsoft, the makers of this software, would improve it, but they haven't yet. Several years ago, the site started to run very slowly and Spark disabled the search feature and that brought performance back up to an acceptible level (even given the increased traffic in the form of posts asking "why isn't the search feature working?"). That bought Spark some time to buy and install new servers. That was not a cheap nor an easy thing to do. Remember, we're not talking here about your average desktop PC. The average PC couldn't do this job and would simply melt under the load. These are purpose-built internet servers and they cost thousands of dollars each. We've been running on those servers very comfortably ever since. But, lately, things have started to slow down again and the administration statistics clearly show that our old enemy the search feature is causing problems again. Spark is now looking at having to purchase new servers or upgrade or augment the existing servers again. It will be expensive and it will be difficult. So, while he studies those issues and prepares for that expense and effort, we will run with restricted search for a while again.
 
Teacher,

Thank you for your sentiments but the replies here are not intended as a sales pitch or a means of getting people to financially commit to the site. That is for them to decide for themselves.

The fact is that we have experienced these bandwidth related growing pains causing the servers to slow down and Spark in testing the site found that by limiting access to the search function it allowed things to return pretty much to normal.

That said, apparently I was in error in thinking that the Google function would add additional drain to our system here. (I am no systems guy.) Cougar has explained that it doesn't and that's good enough for me as I'm sure he has a lot more knowledge in this area than I do.

Had one of the other members not felt it necessary to continue his argument ad nauseum despite our bandwidth related explanations, he'd have suffered no repercussions whatsoever. Our intent is not to limit rational and polite discussion or hide the truth.

What we will not abide is having our integrity and honesty impugned after explaining both here and in personal missives to the offending party that there is no financial motive or conspiracy in having temporarily (at this juncture) removed the search function for a segment of our membership.

I hope that's clear to all here and 'nuff said on that subject.

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Blues,

It was clear from the start. ;)

I never in any way took any of the comments or replies here as a "sales pitch" to get people to join.

It was stated and posted up front that the search function thing was a temporary measure to fix a problem.

How long is temperary one might ask ????

Who knows ????

The point I was trying to make was that for anyone..... especially ones here for free....... to complain and gripe about this having happened.......

was, at the the absolute best.......... very foolish. ;)

I have no problem with what happened to the person in question..... he got less than he deserved IMO ......... :D

Have a good one and thanks for all ya'll do at BF.......... :thumbup:
 
... It is currently the 306th most active discussion forum site on the internet according to www.big-boards.com...

Hey Gollnick, that's a really cool site. I also ran Bladeforums according to other stats, and here is what shows up.

Measurement: BF ranking

Posts: 306th
Members: 425th
Posts Last Week: 221st
Posts/Member Ratio: 1259th
Page Views: 46th
Average Online Users: 61st
Max Online Users: 62nd

The last three ratings give some insight into just how popular and busy this place is!

- Mark
 
Wow! I really didnt mean to stir the pot like this!

Mods, Members, I apologise for any inconvienance or trouble I may have cuased with this post.
 
this really wasn't a problematic thread. As was stated, using google to search BF was mentioned several times prior. Heck, you have to use it when trying to do a general search for some frequently mentioned terms, like Spyderco or Sebenza.
 
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