Searching for a really good knife

Hello Spiderkin,

I am just down the road from you in Frankfurt. You are right, knife prices in Europe are double what the are in the US.

Does the Belgian post office tax goods ordered from abroad? If not, you might try ordering a knife from a US mail order company. It will save you a whole lot of Euros.

Even if you have to pay a tax, it might still be cheaper to buy a knife this way than to buy it in Belgium. I ordered a Fallkniven A1 from Cumberland Knives in the US back in the winter. Even with the customs tax I had to pay, it was still cheaper than buying that knife in a shop in Frankfurt. I saved at leat 30 euros.

Another possibility is to cross the border into Germany and buy a German-made knife, such as a Boker. The German knives here do not seem to cost any more in Euros than they do in dollars back in the US. However, this is only the case for German brands. Anything imported costs alot more.
 
I know, the only problem is that I don't have visa so my only possibility is to pay the transporter upon receipt of the goods. And there is no American company that works like that!credit cards only, blasted plastic things! Damn usefull, but as a student I 'm not allowed to have one! :mad:
The other possibilities that are still open are Puma, etc. but I don't really know the quality of these goods. I have a puma Comet folding knife myself and I can't complain about that one! But I've been reading some posts on this forum and alot of you guys and that positive about it!
Fallkniven is a good brand aswell but the other problem is it is hard to get overhere! And it is twice the price you guys pay it in the us!
:yawn:
Me and w0rf really need to find a good shop overhere. I already asked the local arms dealer and he was going to see what he can do, but like he said we have an expensive taste and not enough money!
The max I'm willing to pay for a knife is 125 Euro and all what I 've seen so far and what you guys told me costs above 125 Euro or $ 130 overhere in belgium!
But I'm still looking, and who knows I might find something! :) Keep on bringing in the good Ideas!!! I need them!

If someone is sick and tired of his old Swamp Rat knife, Buck, sog, ... and wants to trow it in a garbage can, just send it to me! As for here in Belgium all the knives you can buy for a few $ coust double or triple here!!! LOL ;)
 
At the other end of the price spectrum is the KJ Eriksson Mora 2000--a bargain at twice the price based on everything I've read. Should be widely available in the EU, too.
 
Hi there,

I'm from Belgium too, try the knifeshop in the Prinsegallerij in 1000 Brussel (expensive) or the one close to the Central Station. In De Panne there's a nice one too I've heard and why don't you pop across the boder to Lille, France... They have a nice store close to the train station.

Look for the Al Mar SERE 2000, I have one and it's worth's it's money.

Keep in mind that knife-collecting is legal but carrying a knife is only legal if it's a folding knife and it does NOT lock in any way. Size does not matter. Note, The Al Mar locks... so is illegal to carry ( in my humble opinion, you should not carry a knife to defend yourself here in Belgium, it only leaves room for more violence and if the opponent is somewaht skilled at martial arts, he will unarm you at ounce and perhaps use the weapon against you).

Take a look at www.knifecenter.com and www.bestknives.com

Bye.
 
@ Koolstof,

Lol, I don't carry a knife to defend myself! You can carry a knife when you might need it, in the woods, ...! I need a good knife for a survival I'm going to do in a couple of weeks in the ardennes. I'll be stuck there for a week with nothing but a knife and a bit of food and a tent (and ofcourse my girlfriend).
Btw. I've studied the belgian weapon law, there is nothing in there that a knife may not lock, and if it does it's illegal to carry! If so all Leatherman utility knives are illegal. About the belgian weapon law there are lots of unclear things aswell so don't worry.
It is a fact that carrying a knife on the streets is illegal when the sole purpose is to defend yourself or other illicit means! (therefor I never carry one except when I'm on a camping trip, or I need it to cut ropes(when working), ...)To defend myself I'll use my brains and fists and if that aint enough well then I have a problem!
I can always provide you of a list when carrying a knife becomes legal in belgium. For example while: Hunting, fishing, climbing, camping, hiking ...
Al Mar is a little bit off my league right know I'm only willing to spend 125 Euro MAX, and it has to be a fixed blade due to it's greater strenght when having to cut ropes, meat, into wood ....

Btw. A butterfly knife aint illegal, it is just something that aint tollerated, but there is NO law what so ever that forbids it! Many police officers think that it is forbidden by law! (IF otherwise send me the proof)The only thing they can say about it is that it can be seen as a hidden assault weapon! But about that we can argue whole night long!

Me and another criminology student are searching the belgian weapon laws for a year now, so if it aint in there IT IS LEGAL!!! :D

IF you have some other questions about the belgian "weapon" laws i should recommand you to visit www.weapons.be . Ask the question there and some people will certainly help you out! 3 criminology students and a couple of lawyers/law students aswell. Even a few local police officers ...
 
@ koolstof,

I saw you are a police officer, can you tell me where the law says that knives that can be locked are illegal to carry? I just can't find it! Strange!
No offence but I think you're wrong on that one!
 
Spiderken,

Do you live far from the German border? The price of Boker knives is not that bad here. They have some hunting knives made of 440C that might fit your budget. I see Boker folders in stores in Frankfurt selling for around $50 Euros.
 
Mmmm,

I rather live from a distance to frankfurt and the other problem is I can't use the family car to go there. But I'm looking for a fixed blade.
So maybe the SOG Seal PUB, Kershaw Echo, Gerber Gator, Gerber Harsey Hunter, Puma White Hunter II, Puma Mountain Lion I; ...
Who can tell me whitch one of those blades is the best? Sorry for the little choice but these are the only ones I can get before I go on that survival trip.
Anyone an ID?
 
I have no exact law article, I just studied it like that in the textbook they gave us... As a matter of fact... I remeber it vividly because I asked the teacher some questions. Cannot guarantee though that what they (School van Onderofficieren van de toemalige Rijkswacht, jaar 1999) said was the truth, cause I do NOT have any specific references in the law. But I think the district attorney is somewhat reluctant to anything that could be considdered as a weapon. You are more than likely correct that you can legally carry an approriate knife during a hunting party or a hike. Don't carry a dagger though or a Civilian. It depends highly of the situation. A normal carpenters hammer is very illicit to carry on a nights out in a dancing. When busted, everything highly depends on your own statement ;-)

Knife that can be locked can be seen as stabbing weapons. perhaps that's why they are somewhat shady.
 
According to some lawyers I asked, a knife that can be locked can be seen as a HIDDEN Assault weapon! And that's the reason why it is sometimes unclear or it is legal or not!
But FIXED BLADES are 100 % legal, aslong as they are not daggers
 
I used to own a SOG Seal Pup. It seemed pretty well-made, but the steel is only AUS 6 - near the low end for stainless. On the other hand, it is said that the SOG knives have a good heat treatment.

Puma knives seem to have a poor reputation these days. I think I would choose the SOG over one of the Pumas. Don't know about the others you mentioned.

Are Linder knives available there? They have some models made with good ATS 34 steel.

By the way, Spiderken, I was thinking that there should be a German city much closer to Belgium than Frankfurt. Aachen is very close to the Belgian border, for example. Any small German city should have a knife shop.

Of course, if your home is not close to the German border, it would not be economical to drive there to buy a knife, given the high price of fuel here in Europe. Gasoline (petrol) here is about 3 and 1/2 times the price of what is cost back in my home in Georgia. I am always amazed to see people driving at high speeds down the autobahns here in big Mercedes or BMWs, burning up that expensive gas like it was water.
 
In the states, through the internet, you can find these outstanding bargains;
Gerber Yari 4.8" blade of premium 154CM and micarta handle for <$80 american
Buck Nighthawk 6.5" high carbon blade <$45
Becker BK7 7.2" high carbon blade, a great camper <$45
All 3 have coated blades, are well balanced, and comfortable. The first two are rather sexy, while the Becker I have nicknamed Olga, a stout and happy camper she is.
 
well we're looking for that BK&T in europe, the only problem is that we can't find it! :'(
****ing Europe, none of those nice guys have in the US are available for a good price in Europe, and worst of all, some knives we can't even find in Europe.
I'd really like that BK & T but hey, where can I find it in Europe, or even better Belgium, cause I can't order by credit card as I don't have one! :'(
Does anyone have an ID about BK & T knives in Europe?
I'm looking for the Becker BK 7!!!
 
Hello Spiderkin,

I don't think I have seen the Becker knives over here in Germany. The American brands I have seen here are Cold Steel, Al Mar, Benchmade, Buck, CRK&T, and Kabar. There are probably more, but I cannot remember them right now. The Cold Steel knives were priced so much higher than in the US that would never consider getting one. Here you are pretty much stuck with German brands like Boker if you don't want to pay an arm and a leg.

By the way, don't be too harsh toward your fellow Europeans for the high prices here. One reason the cost of living is so much lower in the US is because of the exploitation of working class labor. There is alot of poverty in the US. It is not as bad as in Third World countries, but it is much worse than in Europe. At least here working people can have decent lives, and do not exist solely for the purpose of making someone else rich.
 
Right you are, on that poverty part altough taxes in belgium are skyhigh. 57 % of what you earn goes out to the state!!! That pretty much sucks!
Anyway I've ordered 2 BK&T BK 7's on http://www.wolfster.de I hope they arrive in time, as for I don't know the store, and don't know if it is to be trusted!
Well see, I ve ordered there because it is the only shop that works with "rembours" as they call it here in belgium. In plain English it means you have to pay the delivery guy for the order.
I'll let you know what it says.
Btw can someone help me out with that Glock knive issue!!! I really want to sharpen the point of that ugly bitch!!! Damn Glock!!! Now I know what's the reason why I bought myself a Sig Sauer p 226, Glock is something that can't be thrusted!!!!!
 
Hi Spiderken,

Glad you were able to find someone that sells the BK&T Brand in Europe. In the US the BK&T brand is often said to be the best in its price range. Personally I do not like the handles on that brand (too slipery), but everyone says their blades are excellent. Just hold on carefully to those slippery handles.

The term for paying for a purchase when delivered in the US is Cash On Delivery, usually abbreviated to COD. Since the advent of credit cards I don't think COD purchases are very common in the US any more.

Taxes are indeed much higher in Europe than in the US. Back home there has been much legitimate objection to high taxes. Our problem in the US is that tax money is often spent foolishly and wasted by the government. For example, the US has the most expensive public schools in the world after Canada, yet in many large cities there are students graduating high school who cannot read or write. Americans have resisted higher taxes and socialized medicine, because the governments there have such a poor record in spending tax money wisely.

Personally I think the failure of the US to keep up with Europe in solving social problems like poverty and bad conditions for workers is more due to the incompetence of the American left than the actions of the right.
 
One word for you, Muela !! I got a muela large bowie for 73 euro in their moly-vanadium enriched 440C steel. It is razor sharp and seems to perform somewhat between 440C and ATS-34/154CM. They have a lot of stuff in that steel from bowies to tactical tantos and they are real easy to buy in Belgium.
 
Hey you guys,

w0rf and I are now the proud owners of the bk&t 7 Combat utility knives! They heve just arrived today! I hope those knives are all you told us, and more ...
We can hardly wait to go and try them out on our survival trip next month... If you guys have some other great Id's of what we should carry allong just tell us.

Tnx for the advice

Spiderken
 
By the way, don't be too harsh toward your fellow Europeans for the high prices here. One reason the cost of living is so much lower in the US is because of the exploitation of working class labor. There is alot of poverty in the US. It is not as bad as in Third World countries, but it is much worse than in Europe. At least here working people can have decent lives, and do not exist solely for the purpose of making someone else rich.
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This isn't the place for this argument, and really should have been kept out of this thread, but I will add that you honostly are wrong, and probably just mad that us Americans have the freedom to buy what we want, work how we want, and much better weapons carry laws...even in aspiring socialist states such as california or new york...

Anyway, very glad you guys found what you needed... now I'm going to put 3 guns on, 3 knives (one of them an auto, the rest locking), and go spend some cash :)
:D :D :p :D :D
 
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