Seattle Guys - Cody Lundin on Radio

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Hi Guys. I just heard that Cody Lundin is going to be on the Bryan Suits show on KVI (AM 570) in the next half hour or so. In his intro, Suits mentioned the Bear Grylls fiasco and Les Stroud as being the "real deal".

-- FLIX

Edited to add:

You can listen online here: http://www.kvi.com/home/ondemand/4906711.html

-- FLIX
 
Hi Guys,

I listened. Cody is on a book tour, promoting his new book, When All Hell Breaks Loose. It was an okay interview. The host asked him to handicap the "TV survivalists" and respond to the Bear Grylls scandal. Cody wiggled out by saying he didn't have a TV, but dismissed the entire genre as BS. Essentially, he said, "What do you expect? It's TV!" In respect to "the Canadian," Cody thought he was discredited because he spent time with local survival experts. :confused:

I don't know if this station has their stuff available for download. If I find it, I'll post a link.

-- FLIX
 
Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to stop at my local book store and see if I can't get a copy of his new book. I need to replace a my copy of his other book. Loaned it out but can't remember who to. 98.6 is a great book and was one of the first books on survival that made sense. I can remember wilderness survival books and classes that contained lots of how to ie shelters etc... but very little in the way of the physiology and physiology of survival.
 
Im surprised that Cody discredits Les because he uses locals for the local knowledge. Every environment is different and knowing one or two new things from locals can only help keep him alive. Hes still doing the 7 days, and not jumping into hotels for a beer and a bed.
 
I got the impression that it was an unguarded moment. He seemed anxious to get the conversation back on him and his book.

-- FLIX
 
aznridah said:
Im surprised that Cody discredits Les because he uses locals for the local knowledge. Every environment is different and knowing one or two new things from locals can only help keep him alive. Hes still doing the 7 days, and not jumping into hotels for a beer and a bed.
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I met Cody a few yrs back and challenged him to come up in dead winter to film his skills and to walk barefoot at -25.

He declined and changed the subject. Like us all he has limitations and his pure skill set is desert conditions.

Some things about Les I like some I dont but he gives it a true go in all environments, something most survival guys wont.

Skam
 
skammer said:
I met Cody a few yrs back and challenged him to come up in dead winter to film his skills and to walk barefoot at -25.

He declined and changed the subject. Like us all he has limitations and his pure skill set is desert conditions.

Some things about Les I like some I dont but he gives it a true go in all environments, something most survival guys wont.

Skam
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Yep, there are very few people who have the expertise that would allow them to survive anywhere on the planet. You have some people like Peter Kummerfeldt who grew up in Kenya and was a US Air Force survival instructor in the mountains of Colorado, the jungle school in the Philippines and the cold weather school in Alaska, but people with that much experience are few and far between. Even someone with that much experience may be in trouble if he was dropped off certain places.

I really enjoy Lundin's book "98.6 Degrees" and I bet he is one of the best desert survival guru's out there, but I am not going to go to him to find out how to survive in the Amazon, the Himalaya's or Nunavut. I bet if he was going to go to those places, he would have to seek out professional help in advance or else he would be in big trouble. This certainly doesn't mean that he isn't a good instructor or that he is a fraud, it just means that he doesn't know everything about survival in every climate on the planet.

I also find it a little strange that he would criticize someone who he has apparently never seen, since he said he doesn't own a TV. I guess he is just trying to portray himself as being an expert that would never have to ask for help.
 
Cody, is better than most in his areas of expertise I certainly give him that. Nice guy too, funny and pleasant to talk with. Shorter than I thought haha.

Skam
 
The thing about Cody is he doing it in one of the toughest places in middle AZ primarily - I think many instructors avoid this area because it is so tough. Although I would discount other geographies with this guy, he has spent time with Mors Kochanski in the boreal forest and put his time in the San Fransicos above 9,000'.

You are right he is funny and a nice guy too. I remember him saying something about his girlfriend giving him a hard time about being the survival guy but waiting in the car when they were somewhere like Minnesota in the winter - he said he was miserably cold with his bare feet and the ice. In snow I believe he wears three pairs of wool socks and thats it on his feet.
 
Although I would discount other geographies with this guy, he has spent time with Mors Kochanski in the boreal forest and put his time in the San Fransicos above 9,000'.
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So Les is basically a fraud for having to receive training from other experts, but Lundin getting training from Kochanski is okay in his book? We are probably making too much of what he said and taking it out of context, but him training with Mors is no different than Les getting on-scene instruction local from survival experts. I still like Lundin, I just find it odd that he would talk down about another survival expert. I just don't have too much respect for people that have to put down others in order to make themselves look better, such as Lynn Thompson. I hope/bet that Lundin doesn't make a habit of saying things like that, because that would really change the way I think of him if he does.
 
AustinTXShooter said:
So Les is basically a fraud for having to receive training from other experts, but Lundin getting training from Kochanski is okay in his book? We are probably making too much of what he said and taking it out of context, but him training with Mors is no different than Les getting on-scene instruction local from survival experts. I still like Lundin, I just find it odd that he would talk down about another survival expert. I just don't have too much respect for people that have to put down others in order to make themselves look better, such as Lynn Thompson. I hope/bet that Lundin doesn't make a habit of saying things like that, because that would really change the way I think of him if he does.
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I don't think that's his style. I didn't hear the interview, but give him the benefit of the doubt - it was probably out of context, misunderstanding, or maybe even frustration - he was there to talk about his book and is passionate about that stuff. TV is the big machine and is wrapped in commercialism - I am not slamming Les here, but it is the nature of the business he is in now, I would have been frustrated too. Peace, QB
 
Hi Guys,

You can listen to the interview yourself. Go here and click on the Listen button under (Bryan Suits Show) Tuesday, October 9, 2007.

It is possible I got it wrong, or that Cody got Les and Bear mixed up. Please listen to what he has to say before being too critical.

-- FLIX
 
One of the things that rings true in any enviroment is that it is absolutly vital to maintain your core body tempature and to stay hydrated. If that is the only thing you take away from Lundin's book you learned something important.
It has only been in since I read Cody's book about four or five years ago that I have heard this repeated else where. I remember hydration being stressed during my desert warfare/survival courses in the military but not core temp and in scouts I remember hypothermia and heat stroke prevention being stressed. I guess I knew the two were interconnected but when I read Cody's book it clicked and really made sense.
 
Core temps in both directions and hydration apply to ALL environments cold and hot and in between.

Skam
 
I just received Cody's new book and it is good very similar to 98.6 in format, I got mine from Amazon
 
I listened to the interview, I don't think Cody meant to slam Les Stroud the way it came out. "IF" Les Stroud hid the fact that he gets training from locals before filming, then it would be wrong, but since he openly shows that he does, I think that's cool.

I'll give Lunden credit, a lot of "survival" books do not pay enough attention to body temp regulation which is more important than some other things that get more press.

I've never met Lunden, but I know someone who has a great deal of experience in wilderness living, that has worked with him and they speak pretty highly of him.

Now if he would just buy some shoes...... :D
 
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