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kutch133

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Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but people who base their opinions on factless rumors and innuendo's exhibit nothing but their shameless ignorance. If I express an opinion on this site about a knife, you can be assured that it is based on my own personal experience with that particular knife, ie. "Brand X knife was a POS because the blade bent when I cut a piece of paper." I don't go bashing a knife because I am not fortunate enough to own one, all the while secretly envying those who do. We who are fortunate enough to own a Sebenza do not claim that it is the best knife ever made. We only shared the facts about these knives and these facts are simply that that the Sebenza is a well engineered, well made knife that exudes quality as evidenced by their extemely tight tolerances, excellent fit and finish and vault like lock-up. These opinionated people who have never seen a Sebenza in person much less owned one stir my ire.
 
Originally posted by kutch133
"Brand X knife was a POS because the blade bent when I cut a piece of paper."
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Hey! My Sebenza did that too! :) So, we have yet another Sebenza design flaw, the blade disintergrates when it touches paper. Oh, wait a minute, sorry, that was my Benchmade... :)


(The above is all meant in humor, im ALMOST sure a Benchmade can cut paper without catastrophic blade faliure. :) )
 
Originally posted by Buzzbait
Let's shoot for a little realism. If anybody is interested, I've posted a Sebenza, 710 and Military comparison in the Knife Reviews and Testing section.
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And an excellent, even-handed, well reasoned and well written comparison/review it is. Interesting and enjoyable as always. Thanks, Buzzbait.
 
Originally posted by kutch133
Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but people who base their opinions on factless rumors and innuendo's exhibit nothing but their shameless ignorance.
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I agree completely.

Originally posted by kutch133
If I express an opinion on this site about a knife, you can be assured that it is based on my own personal experience with that particular knife, ie. "Brand X knife was a POS because the blade bent when I cut a piece of paper."
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Unfortunately, not everyone follows the same practices.

Originally posted by kutch133
I don't go bashing a knife because I am not fortunate enough to own one, all the while secretly envying those who do.
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So the implication is that if someone doesn't like the knife, it must be because they can't afford one, there is something psychologically wrong with them, they are immoral, or envious?

Originally posted by kutch133
We who are fortunate enough to own a Sebenza do not claim that it is the best knife ever made. We only shared the facts about these knives and these facts are simply that that the Sebenza is a well engineered, well made knife that exudes quality as evidenced by their extemely tight tolerances, excellent fit and finish and vault like lock-up.
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Hmmm, so we can assume that those who DO say that the Sebenza is the best folder in the world base their claim on empirical evidence (such as some statistical testing) or the fact that they have owned every folder in the world.


Originally posted by kutch133
These opinionated people who have never seen a Sebenza in person much less owned one stir my ire.
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What about those who have seen one in person?

You know what stirs my ire? People who resort to attacking other PEOPLE because of the way they feel about a KNIFE!

RL
 
Originally posted by WrayH
And an excellent, even-handed, well reasoned and well written comparison/review it is.
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I agree, and want to remind you that such things have no place here. My comparative sample of all things bladeforums had determined that most people prefer to simply insult peoples integrity without reason whatsoever.
 
RL

It is obvious that you have never owned a Sebenza, sort of like the kid who didn't want to try a particular food because of the way it appeared only to find out later in life that he loved the tast of that food.
 
Why is it that you have to own a knife in order to have an opinion on it?

So you mean that in order to say that a knife is a POS you'd have to pay to buy it and then you have the right to say it's a POS? That's a POS.

Maybe you tried it out at the shop...you didn't like it...it's a POS...so why should you want to pay for it?

In the end, any review is only the opinion of the reviewer.

I want to see a blade to blade comparison like what they do with cars. Test its lock strength. Test its cutting power. Test ease of use. A long term durability test. etc...

Only then will i admit that a knife is better than any other.

kutch133...

Why are you comparing a knife with food? Even food needs to look good enough to eat...so if you don't like the looks of it...why should you eat it? Why should you have someone force feed you?
Man...if i had someone tell me that i should eat what they eat...i'd tell them to go piss off...

Same goes for knives...
 
Originally posted by kutch133
RL

It is obvious that you have never owned a Sebenza, sort of like the kid who didn't want to try a particular food because of the way it appeared only to find out later in life that he loved the tast of that food.
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What made it so obvious? the fact that I don't support personally attacking people who don't like the Sebenza???

RL
 
My point is this: Some people, not all people, on this forum have expressed their dislike for the Sebenza based on its appearance and not because they have actually owned or seen or used one. They discredit the Sebenza and its thousands of owners as if they were foolish for spending near custom money for a custom quaility knife and yet they won't ante up. Before I bought my first, I didn't know if the hype was true but I didn't bash those who already had one.
 
i dunno, someone in another thread said sebenzas are crappy. why should i beleive you, an actual owner?

in other news, why did you create this thread?

surely you knew it would turn into a flamefest and nothing good could come of it.

oh well i like fireworks.
 
Originally posted by kutch133
They discredit the Sebenza and its thousands of owners as if they were foolish for spending near custom money for a custom quaility knife...
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Hmmm...interesting....well, I certainly don't condone that either!

RL
 
I was thinking about the blade opening issue and was just curious about something. If it is clipped in the pocket doesn't the blade go against the back of the pocket? Are the opening cases a left handed person clipping a right handed knife in the left pocket? Loose in the pocket, any knife can open a bit. Keys, coins can create an opportunity? I haven't read the complaints before, but when I thought about them again from the other thread, it didn't make sense. Was it a dancing bear?

I still beleive the other thread had a different agenda than answering this question, but I became curious all the same. Hope this follow up question makes some sense.
 
Geesh! Another thread? As if one wasn't enough? Some people bitched about how the last one was useless, and only made to scar CRK reputation. Is this post any more useful? What purpose does it serve? Answer me that. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by RL
Hmmm...interesting....well, I certainly don't condone that either!

RL
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LOL RL, you're a glutton for punishment trying to play devil's advocate with these guy's.
 
Originally posted by brownshoes
I agree, and want to remind you that such things have no place here. My comparative sample of all things bladeforums had determined that most people prefer to simply insult peoples integrity without reason whatsoever.
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Hi Brownshoes, I was hoping the reports of your being banned where true. I figured you'd come back under another proxy, before the keys got cold, but am surprized to see you're back under the same username. If it's any consolation, Kref doesn't believe you're a troll;-)
 
Originally posted by JDBraddy
LOL RL, you're a glutton for punishment trying to play devil's advocate with these guy's.
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I don't really see it as being devil's advocate...whether Sebenza owners put down non-owners or non-owners put down owners, it's all the same thing...bottom line, don't attack others because of their tastes in knives.

RL
 
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