Sebenza Blade testing

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While sharpening my 2010 LV inlaid sebenza on my work sharp sharpener I rounded the tip. I had been thinking about having the blade upgraded to S35VN so I decided to send it in for replacement but I wanted to keep my S30V blade as a "user" blade so I asked that they return that to me. Well, I ended up buying a second sebenza as a user so I had this extra blade laying around....

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I've always wondered how strong the hollow grind is on the sebenza. I keep hearing people say that it's fragile because it's too thin, but I wanted to find out for myself so I did some testing. I sometimes hesitate to use my sebenza for anything "hard use" because I'm just not sure how strong the blade actually is. I am not claiming this is a conclusive test of blade strength or anything like that. I'm just sharing the results of some tests I did to satisfy my own curiosity. There are probably much better ways to test blade strength but this is what I did with the resources I had.

The first thing I did was use a 16oz hammer to cut through a 2"x2" piece of cedar. The sebenza blade did this without breaking a sweat:
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No noticeable damage to the blade other than some hammer marks on the spine. The blade edge was still pretty sharp, but it wasn't overly sharp to begin with. Next up I decided to try some .5" PVC pipe:

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This was a silly test because one hammer whack later the sebenza cut right through it. Absolutely no damage to the edge. Next I decided to try some wire I had laying around. I don't know what gauge it is but it felt fairly thick. It's grounding wire that you use when installing server racks. The sebenza cut through it easily multiple times without any damage to the blade again:

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Next I decided to try some concrete on a slab near my house:

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I didn't want to damage the cement too much so I didn't spend much time on this test. Also, it was at sort of a weird angle so I didn't go straight in with the blade. This lead to the first bit of damage on the blade. A fairly large dent because of the angle I went in at:

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Next I decided to try a 1/4" steel rod that I have. I don't know what kind of steal this is, sorry. No surprise, this led to some more dents in the blade, but not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Keep in mind, I am banging hard on the spine of the blade with a 16oz hammer. Here's the damage:

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Finally, I had some G10 laying around so I decided to try the blade against that. G10 is alot tougher than I give it a credit for, but again, no extra damage to the blade (as far as I can tell). Also, for the safety conscious, yes I was wearing proper safety equipment (including a respirator) when cutting this G10.

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The G10 doesn't look very damaged but I was hitting it hard. That stuff is really tough!

Overall I am surprised at the results. The blade took MUCH more abuse than I thought it would. Before I started I thought that I might break the blade hitting it with the hammer through the cedar. The blade is actually still in pretty decent condition after all of this. I'm thinking about heading to the store to buy some bricks to see how well it does on that.

Anyone have any suggestions on what else I may try? :)
 
Those tests are confidence inspiring! Thank you for sharing!
How about a rebar test. Not that I'd ever need to cut or hammer through rebar....just curious and you did ask for suggestions :D
 
Those tests are confidence inspiring! Thank you for sharing!
How about a rebar test. Not that I'd ever need to cut or hammer through rebar....just curious and you did ask for suggestions :D

Excellent suggestion! I'll see if I can find some. Yeah, I'm definitely looking for suggestions. I want to see exactly what it takes to render this blade unusable.
 
lisantica, do you even use your crk collection? im curious as to what applications require the quantity of chris reeve knives that you own. more or less, my opinion (and thats all it is) is that you're a collector first and a user second. i do recall reading your disagreements with that wack job neptune guy beating the hell out of his knives to test them. as for the op, cool testing and pics. that steel truly can endure some punishment.

-dan
 
I don't know what to say except I like knives.
 
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Great job seriyu. Its a nice change to see a test like this done since not too many people would sacrifice a sebenza blade.
Its interesting that the sebenza blade dents rather than chips against hard materials like concrete and steel. You can argue
that the blade hardness being a little softer really works well as a user blade.
 
Its interesting that the sebenza blade dents rather than chips against hard materials like concrete and steel. You can argue
that the blade hardness being a little softer really works well as a user blade.

+1:thumbup: The dents suprised me too.
 
If you don't destroy it, how about sending it off to Clay at Wicked Edge to see if he can restore the
edge.
 
IMO you should have used the blade to practice your sharpening skills.

Knife tests like this show me nothing but that you were bored.
 
well if i ever cut pvc, wire or 2x2, i'm glad my sebenza will hold up...................... oh,i forgot steel pipe..............
 
IMO you should have used the blade to practice your sharpening skills.

Knife tests like this show me nothing but that you were bored.

It didn't show you the resilience of Reeve's s30v with regards to not chipping? That's what it showed me. Posts like yours make me think that you were bored :)
 
Awesome pictures, thanks for sharing. Hollow grinds are tougher then people give them credit for. Buck introduced the "edge 2000" or something and they experimented with a few grinds back then, ended up being a hollow grind for cutting and edge holding performance, now you showed why CRK heat treats their blades the way they do as well as chose the edge geometry the way they do. Gives a good all round performance IMO.

For those that think that G10 is not tough, try getting some and breaking it. You will be surprised.
 
I just dont get the concrete test, or the cutting thru pipe?:confused:

I wouldn't ever use a sebenza for anything close to that.
 
It didn't show you the resilience of Reeve's s30v with regards to not chipping? That's what it showed me. Posts like yours make me think that you were bored :)

I am bored. Reason there are things like the forums to keep me from being very bored. :)

I just don't get destruction tests. Some like it but I do not. I would like to see some blood and accidents from these tests but we can't get everything we want.
 
THE HORROR!

That belongs in a 'Final Destination' for knife blades...

Thanks for the entertainment - and education!

Stainz
 
I am bored. Reason there are things like the forums to keep me from being very bored. :)

I just don't get destruction tests. Some like it but I do not. I would like to see some blood and accidents from these tests but we can't get everything we want.

I understand and typically would agree. This one was unique, although it had elements of a destruction test it only tested the blade and did no damage to the frame of the knife. I think that circumstance of this one allowed me to look past what could be construed as needless destruction of an otherwise nice knife. I do appreciate the ops pics showing how the steel held up. Also he didn't take It so far as to break the blade so it is still very salvageable :). Enjoy your lazy Sunday :)
 
Well once you're done, if it's not destroyed, it would be a really good test of your sharpening skills to get that thing razor sharp again. :)
 
IMO you should have used the blade to practice your sharpening skills.

Knife tests like this show me nothing but that you were bored.

Yeah, that is true I could have done that. To be honest, I am genuinely interested in just how strong the blade is. Like I said, I often hesitate when I use my sebenza because I just wasn't sure how strong it was. This test's sole purpose was to alleviate these fears for the knife I've chosen as my EDC. I can now say that I personally have more confidence in this knife and to me that confidence is worth more than however much this extra blade may have been worth. I respect the opinion of those who don't agree with destruction tests and I apologize if this post rubs you the wrong way. I'm simply sharing the results of experiments I did for my own edification.

The fact that the knife didn't chip really surprised me as well. I put on double eye protection because I was convinced the blade would chip and send chunks flying at my eyes. I did have particles flying at my face but it was concrete not steel :)
 
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