Sebenza Incident

there are various grades of loc-tite, which are color-coded according to adhesive strength. The lower grades (purple being weakest, blue being slightly stronger) are more than suitable for use on rivets like the Sebenza's, and may go a long way towards increasing the structural integrity of the knife. The higher grades either can't be removed without a heat gun (red) or they can't be removed at all (green), and so should be things to avoid.
Probably might have kept you from loosing your screw in this instance.
 
Not to be a pain in the ass or anything, but wouldn't a fixed blade be cheaper and tougher for those tasks? It doesn't have to be a monster nor one of those overpriced Bear Grylls knives (I suggest looking at http://www.bayleyknife.com/bear.htm). I bet one of the Rangers can handle a bit more than the Sebenza. 5160 steel can take a lot of punishment.
 
In the situation that led to the incident, I wanted to build a campfire, did not want however to use paper etc to light the fire, and was to lazy to walk back to the car get my hatchet / fixed blade, so decided to use the Seb to break up some kindling. Was not chopping down trees, just splitting some kindling.
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Well, that's a different story altogether....

If you're just splitting some small kindling to build a fire, you don't necessarily need a Sebenza; just about any locking folder will handle such a task without damage.
And if you really need to baton the knife to split the kindling, then I would say that you have selected the wrong size branches for your kindling.
When making a fire, it's best to start small.
 
Sure is a lot of judgement here! C'mon guys- we're all knife knuts here aren't we? If somebody wants to use their SAK to open up their car, then isn't this the place for them to come and tell us about it? Aren't people allowed to have fun with the knives that they paid for? My hats off to the OP for using an expensive knife to do what he wanted to do with it! And he gets my thanks for sharing the story about here!

Rant off
 
Thanks MVF - appreciate the shield there :thumbup:

I posted this more or less to show the overall resilience to the Seb, and for those who may frequent the forum and have heard a lot of junk talk about how tough some of the semi-pricey knives are - but very little about how they react when pushed beyond the scope of normal use.I also understand how attrocious my use of the Sebenza (or any other knife for that matter), may appear to some who would not dare to use a knife in that way is. To each their own :thumbup:

Allen - Thanks for the coaching on fire making, but as I said originally - most all of the wood in the area was pretty well saturated from a previous rain - unfortunately in order to get the dry stuff needed in order to ignite a fire - chose to baton through some wood in order to get some dry stuff - I Was lighting by Flint/Striker - so good/dry wood curls and kindling were needed.
And it was just as much an experimentation all the way around.

Your right on target though as to how it should not have been an issue.

Thanks also missin_hobo for the Loctite suggestions - I agree that if I would have been prepped in one of those methods, would have not had an issue.
 
Hummm ... I think back to all those amusing episodes where Bear Brylls battoned a folder through various pieces of lumber and wonder why ppl get upset at the notion of using a Seb to do the same. Indeed it sounds like, with a little Loctite, a Seb can easily handle this chore.

Thanks for the posting this!
 
It's a folder...what do you expect? I have two Sebenzas, and I love them. But, you won't see me trying to baton with them.
 
I have two Sebenzas, and I love them. But, you won't see me trying to baton with them.
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hey, they why do you need two of them?
sorry, couldn't help myself:cool:
 
NI200 said:
hey, they why do you need two of them?
sorry, couldn't help myself:cool:
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One large; one small.:)
As you might have guessed from my previous post, I'm not a big fan of folders....BUT, they are just so darn convenient! And, I figure, if I'm going to carry one (in addition to a fixed, of course), it might as well be the one of the best.
- Still wouldn't baton with a folder, though.
 
Its interesting what people will and won't do with particular knives... Maybe I am mis-reading, but would I baton with a $30 folder? Yes, if thats what I have on me. But, would I baton with a $450 folder? Sure I would. It will handle it better than my $30 folder, thats for sure. Thats why I bought it.

Why bother with the best knives if you aren't going to use them for anything more than a $30 knife could handle?

Yes, I know why a lot of folks are like this, but it just seems so backward to me when I hear it. I probably say the same thing half the time.

And this particular incident the OP had, I would guess that it was not vibration loosening the spacer, but that he hit the handle inadvertantly a few times while battoning and torqued it enough to rip the threads out. I could be completely wrong, and Barrabas can tell us if those threads are ripped out better than anyone else. If it NEEDS thread tape to stay in there, its stripped out. I'd get a new screw/spacer set and call it a day.

Nice seeing someone use the worker like its meant to be used.

schiesz
 
Hmmmm, it seems to me the moral of the story is: screws unscrew (are we surprised at this?), so check them periodically, especially if the item is subject to vibration.
Greg
ps--Barrabas, sorry that such an innocent story provoked such angst in so many readers.
 
But, would I baton with a $450 folder? Sure I would. It will handle it better than my $30 folder, thats for sure.
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Don't be fooled in to thinking that "more expensive" equals "tougher".

There are custom made folders that cost more than $600.00 dollars that are much weaker than a $30.00 dollar Buck 110.

I agree that the Sebenza is a tough knife, but not ALL expensive folders are as strong as you might think.
$$$ does not equal strength.
 
allenC said:
Don't be fooled in to thinking that "more expensive" equals "tougher".

There are custom made folders that cost more than $600.00 dollars that are much weaker than a $30.00 dollar Buck 110.

I agree that the Sebenza is a tough knife, but not ALL expensive folders are as strong as you might think.
$$$ does not equal strength.
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I agree completely. I should have specified Sebenza in that statement. But that is the knife in discussion, after all.

schiesz
 
Wow, you must be made outta money. Send me your Sebbies and I'll send you a couple Moras to EDC in exchange. Nice to know that your knives are quality, even if your decision-making processes make me wonder. :o)
 
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