Sebenza or Alias

tsiloics said:
This is an interesting issue.

I don't think there is as much justification going on as some people seem to believe. Don't have any numbers to back this up, but folks buy CRK knives (and other such things) because they want them.

Maybe the CRK owner has a relatively high disposable income. Maybe he lacks other expenses that you have. Maybe he just prioritizes knives to a greater degree. Point is, the guy with the Sebenza had $385 (or whatever) to spend on a knife. He wanted a 385 dollar knife. He was not going to get the same degree of satisfaction from a 200 dollar knife.

That is not necessarily snobbery. In a lot of cases, I think it is just a matter of wanting to own a more refined object. There's nothing inherently snooty about that.

You can't necessarily quantify a person's desire to own something down to the last nickel. Some of it is intangible... like having kids, winning an Olympic gold, starting a business or spending a year biking across the country.

The fact that the knife itself is a material object, does not mean that all aspects of ownership can be reduced into material terms. Just as one example, I have a lot of stress and dissatisfaction in my life from time to time. I also happen to carry a knife for utilitarian purposes. It is true that my utilitarian needs could be fulfilled by a 200 dollar knife. Sometimes when I am not feeling well... when I am having trouble getting a particular thing to do what I want it to do, I'll pull out my Sebenza and just look at it. Just handle it. It feels good to be physically close to something that's done right. The ability to do that... to have that soothing feeling is not a completely tangible thing. It has nothing to do with arrogance or greed. It definitely has utilitarian value though, and that value derives directly from the quality of the knife.

Maybe a little esoteric, but just sayin'... everything in the world is not 100% black and white.
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Just paste this in every "Is the Sebenza Worth It" thread from this point forward because I am not sure that a better answer exists. Well done!!!!!!!!!!!
 
phantom357 said:
Apparently you didn't read my intro post because I do have an alias which I do like by the way. However, the alias is probably the top knife in the minor league whereas the sebenza is in the major league. At the end of the day, price points/value of money are relative to the individual's standard of living and income and I would happily say that a $385.00 knife is inferior, if that's the case (which by the way, the sebenza isn't). Your statement about me or any other "knife snob" trying to justify price is very presumptuous, especially if $385.00 is like $3.85. My point is, you never know. Enjoy your Alias and I will enjoy my Sebenza. Oh, btw, I plan on selling my Alias in the marketplace in the near future, so if you know someone who would like to buy bolo.
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"Especially if $385 is like $3.85" again sounds pretty snobby to me. Go fuck yourself rich boy. must be nice to not have to worry about money like the rest of us normal people. suck my dick
 
I would like to first introduce myself to the forum as this is my first post. The name is DREWMANCHU and I'm happy to be part of the forum. I thought I would weigh in on this as it is an issue of hot debate. I happen to own a Bradley Alias 1 and a small regular seb with swedge. The issue here is not of being a knife snob as some fool has said here. Its about how into knives you really are. I bought the Bradley as an edc to take around and not worry about beating the heck out of it. The seb I had to have because I see it as the ultimate folding knife and couldn't be without one. I carry it mostly to special occasions and anywhere else it won't be abused. so I use it...but dont beat on it. The major diff's in the knives are the pivot bushing on the seb, the washer size(which hasn't been an issue yet), the lockup where the seb wins,and fit and finish a/o tolerances where again the sebbie is a winner. It really is all bout the user and how knives rank on his/her list of passions(if you will). It isn't an issue of economic standing(but if you have the means you really should have a sebenza) or snobbery, it all comes down to you. P.S. I hope someone has reported this BMBLADE so we don't have to put up with his act anymore.
GOD BLESS,
DREWMANCHU
 
DREWMANCHU

First of all welcome to the forum and thank you for your input, hope you enjoy your stay. BMBLADE has been banned. The moderators are very good and I think the record for a banned troll is 11 minutes since the original post.
 
DREWMANCHU was (now that he is banned) BMBLADE.
 
I knew something was fishy, he seemed to have the same syntax with his post as BMBLADE, hell even the name was too similar.

People like him need to be permanently banned. What does he think he's proving? With any luck we can get this topic back on focus and wont have to worry about the opinions of idiots.

Berkely
 
I did not read through the thread to see what all went down but I did at one time get an Alias and hated it.That knife is in no way near the quality of the Sebenza.I could not keep the screws tight in it even with blue lock tight.
The BM Skirmish was much closer than the Alias.
 
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