Sebenza Photos, old and new style...

Gary W. Graley

Gary W. Graley

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Just got my new style large Sebenza and threw it and my older one plus the small one for good measure, on the flat bed scanner and wondered what you'all think about the style of the new verses the old?

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I like the small's handle style and it works well, but I prefer the older style on the large.

G2

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I prefer the new style myself (probably because thats what I own!) But it's nice to see them side by side and note the subtle differences. Nice pic.
 
I like the new style myself.
Love that BG42.
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Gary, nice scan, and a great thread. Now I know where to send people not sure if they have the old or new style handles in my trade offer.

Thanks Gary
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James
 
The old style looks like it has a longer blade.Did they make a change?
scott w
 
I think I like the new style a little more.

sdw - I'm not sure about actual lengths, but it sure looks like it.


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JP Bullivant
 
When did they start the new style? Mine is dated April 11 1999 and still has the old style handle. I see a difference in blade geometry also (or is just a different view angle?). Is the blade still has the stonewashed finish? What other differences are there? Ummm... I begin to think about getting the new one (this is not good!
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Waitaminute!! Which one is the old one in that picture? Sorry, but I didn't follow Sebenza's evolution too closely. I was assuming the first one is the older one. Correct me if I'm wrong anybody!

Reynaert

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i prefer the old style (mine is from '95).
the new style looks like someone took a bite out of the liner lock release area-not to offend anyone who has the new style-different strokes for different folks!

jason fowler
 
Frantium, the knives are, top to bottom:

Old Style Sebenza
New Style Sebenza
New Style Small Sebenza

If what you own is the Old Style and you want to trade for a New Style, email me and we can work out a trade. Thanks.


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James
 
I like the old handle and the new blade. Guess I'll hafta get both and do a little tinkering. What do you call the finish on the new blade anyways? Looks like it's all 'scratched' but it's actually smooth.


Jason
 
Yes the top knife is the older style, the blade is slightly longer and is polished, though not a true mirror finish. The newer style blades have a Stonewashed finish.

The handle on the older style is also slightly longer, due to the longer blade no doubt. The blade has a sharper profile on the older one, where the newer one's point drops a little lower.

I like the newer steel so far, but like the looks and feel of the older style handle on the larger one.

Missing the Umfaan in the photo, have to work on getting that new one!

G2

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When a fellow says, "it ain't the money but the principle of the thing,"
it's the money.
F. McKinney Hubbard

www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Cabin/7306/blades.html


 
I have a small sebenza with the older style handles but it has a stonewashed blade. I asked about it over on CRK forum at the other site, but no one bothered to answer.

Does anyone know if there were any stonewashed ATS-34 blades?

I bought mine used and it didn't have the papers with it.

For the record, I love the old style handle.

Thanks,

Clay

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Clay Fleischer
cdfleischer@yahoo.com

Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...

 
Clay, the word from Reeve's are if it has a Stonewashed blade it is BG-42 steel, that was in one of their post a while back, but having both knives they seem to cut equally as well, enjoy the older style handle !
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Change in plans, see St James' note below to clear up the matter....
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G2

[This message has been edited by Gary W. Graley (edited 19 May 1999).]
 
Thanks for the info, Gary!
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I wonder how many older handled models had the stonewashed BG-42 blade?

Q: Do the newer model small Sebbies have the ridges along the thins sides of the handle like the larger ones?

Thanks!

Clay

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Clay Fleischer
cdfleischer@yahoo.com

Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...

 
My small one does, so I would think that they all would. The large older style handle is nice in the hand, the back of the handle, the part that goes against the palm has a nice curve to it, where as the newer one is fairly straight and has a curve on the blade side.

BUT I like them all and can't wait for the Umfaan.

G2
 
I can't either! I have an order in with Cecil Self of Arrow-Dynamics for one of the new 99. Much better than the past two years' offerings, IMHO.

BTW, Cecil is a great guy to deal with. I sent back a large Sebenza (the large just was too big for my tastes -- for 4" blades, I prefer a FB) and he took it back even though he had to take a loss on it. I didn't ant him to do that, but he did anyways. You can't go wrong with Arrow-Dynamics!



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Clay Fleischer
cdfleischer@yahoo.com

Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...

 
I hate to add to the confusion, but...

I have a small Sebenza, new handle style, ATS-34 steel, with a stonewashed blade. It is #170 of the first 200 done in the new handle style, you can see it here http://home.att.net/~saintjamess/sebenzapic1.html

I believe they changed the handle style before they swithed to BG-42. I have had contact with several people with the new handle but the old steel.

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James
 
I had called and talked with Bridget today and Anne was out with a sick child, but she will ask Anne to help clear up this, but it sounds like St James really does mix up the mix! Oh well?

What to do.....


G2
 
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