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Schrade Crazy

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I have been a member here for sometime but havent been logged in here for some time so bear with me as I dont know my way around yet.
I have noticed some knives on Ebay with an unusuall notch at the base of the main blade. This notch is not on all the knives but mostly on ones from the closeout of the factory. Can someone tell me if this is put there to describe a second? And can someone tell me if these Schrade Waldens in the plastic tube that are on ebay, Are the true Schrades? Were they manufactured by Schrade employies before the factory closed? I think maybe some of us beginners are being taken advantage of. Not sure, Just wondered.
Now I just hope I can figure out how to find the answeres here.
Sincerely,
Schrade Crazy:confused:
 
And can someone tell me if these Schrade Waldens in the plastic tube that are on ebay, Are the true Schrades?
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No. They are made in the USA, perhaps by Bear Cutlery or Camillus (it's been discussed here, but I've forgotten), for Taylor who now owns the Schrade trademarks. I believe the clear plastic tubes are original though.

Sorry, I can't answer your question about the notches. I have a Schrade that was obviously a second and it's not notched. But notches have been used by other companies to indicate Factory Seconds.

Best Wishes,
Bob
 
In Schrades case notchs were not used to designate a second or rejected knife. LT
 
Hey Schrade Crazy, Can you post a link to the auction with the notched knife? I'd like to see an example.

-Bob
 
When I answered I believed that the notch in question was the Choil . This is a notch at the junction of a blades cutting edge and the tang. This is sometimes used as a way to run out the grinding wheel. LT
 
lt632ret said:
When I answered I believed that the notch in question was the Choil . This is a notch at the junction of a blades cutting edge and the tang. This is sometimes used as a way to run out the grinding wheel. LT
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The Choil is to allow the full length of the edge to be sharpened without hitting the shoulder. It has absolutely nothing to do with grinding. The grinding wheel is actually plunging in the shoulder / choil area.
 
Levines guide forth edition. This is my reference and what I was referring to and what I thought he might be referring to. LT
 
Well none the less you can see what I based my answer on. The picture is from his book. Normally Mr Levine is pretty knowledgable. In my case I have very little practice in building knives so my only recourse is to quote a supposed expert. Sorry if it was incorrect. LT
 
Choil huh? I've noticed that most of my early LB7's all have a pronounced choil (new term for me) but many of the later ones do not. Do you think this is a style choice made at the factory or a change in the production process? Some of you guys worked there right?
 
The blade was changed from conventional blanking to fine blanking some time in 1998. There were some very slight changes (why, I don't know) that would have effected the look of the choil a little.
 
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