Seems like spyderhole is much stronger part than the lock.

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Why is everyone bashing the OP? He's reporting a knife failure that is of interest to most of us here, and he's including good photos, to boot.

Light spine taps are not abuse. Even Spyderco recommends light (5 to 10 pounds) spine taps to test a lock. I have an original Manix and I'm sure that it could take a much, much harder spine whack and suffer no damage.

There was obviously a flaw in the metal, and from the photos it looks like the lock bar broke right at the spot where you'd expect to find a stress riser.

I'd rack this up to an isolated case where a metal part had a flaw. Too bad owner can't find a new lock bar. The original Manix is a great knife.
 
There's a right way and a wrong way to beat your meat...

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The OP's English is a little weak, but it appears more that people are just bashing him for no good reason. Plus, it's pretty easy to make bad jokes about this particular situation.

There is no way that light spine taps would break this knife unless there was a flaw in the metal. I'm not sure why Spyderco cannot or will not repair this for free, including postage.
 
Twindog said:
The OP's English is a little weak, but it appears more that people are just bashing him for no good reason. Plus, it's pretty easy to make bad jokes about this particular situation.

There is no way that light spine taps would break this knife unless there was a flaw in the metal. I'm not sure why Spyderco cannot or will not repair this for free, including postage.
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Here's a question, that will answer your initial question: can you prove that those spine taps were "light"? Were you there? Those pics don't show anything other than a broken knife. It could have been damaged in any number of abusive ways.

Additionally, at what point are we supposed to be ok with bashing a well known, well respected knife company, instead of bashing the idiot who abused the product by using it in a manner for which it was not intended?
 
Twindog said:
There is no way that light spine taps would break this knife unless there was a flaw in the metal. I'm not sure why Spyderco cannot or will not repair this for free, including postage.
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What's more likely, that there was a flaw in the metal or that "light spine taps" were not actually that light?

Both are possible. But let's be realistic here.
 
Just bought this new knife from Spyderco. I open the package, and lo and behold there is a giant hole in the blade. WTF? What kind of crap company are they to ship out a blade like this!!!
 
K.O.D. said:
Just bought this new knife from Spyderco. I open the package, and lo and behold there is a giant hole in the blade. WTF? What kind of crap company are they to ship out a blade like this!!!
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I know!!!!! Then, and this is the worst, the WORST. Their jimping guy? HE PUT JIMPING ON BOTH SIDES'A THA BLADE!!! WHO DOES THAT!!!!!
 
Twindog said:
The OP's English is a little weak, but it appears more that people are just bashing him for no good reason. Plus, it's pretty easy to make bad jokes about this particular situation.

There is no way that light spine taps would break this knife unless there was a flaw in the metal. I'm not sure why Spyderco cannot or will not repair this for free, including postage.
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I disagree with your grievance. There is a huge difference between testing a lock on a new knife and using an old one later in its life for a purpose it was NEVER designed for. Not to mention the blade possibly folding on your hand. To me the story doesnt ad up and it poses more questions about the intelligence of the user than it does the work of the maker. Knives, especially folders are designed to cut. The are not designed for hammering frozen objects to separate them. And the claim of weak hits doesnt jive with the admitted purpose of use. At some point people need to accept responsibility for poor choices instead of fishing for sympathy after a company refuses to repair a knife that was admittedly abused. And the parallels the op drew between two unrelated products was more nonsense.
 
Quiet said:
Here's a question, that will answer your initial question: can you prove that those spine taps were "light"? Were you there? Those pics don't show anything other than a broken knife. It could have been damaged in any number of abusive ways.

Additionally, at what point are we supposed to be ok with bashing a well known, well respected knife company, instead of bashing the idiot who abused the product by using it in a manner for which it was not intended?
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Sure, the spine whacks could have been harder than described. The knife could have been purposely broken with tools. But why would we assume that the OP is not describing what happened accurately? There has to be a reason to doubt his story, and there is no reason. I've shattered a knife blade into three pieces using just hand pressure. Things happen. No company can produce perfect products day after day after day. Some flaws will slip through. That's understandable.

I don't see this as bashing Spyderco. Sal himself recommends light spine taps as a testing procedure.

Unfair insults don't promote friendly and informed discussion.
 
Twindog said:
Sure, the spine whacks could have been harder than described. The knife could have been purposely broken with tools. But why would we assume that the OP is not describing what happened accurately? There has to be a reason to doubt his story, and there is no reason. I've shattered a knife blade into three pieces using just hand pressure. Things happen. No company can produce perfect products day after day after day. Some flaws will slip through. That's understandable.

I don't see this as bashing Spyderco. Sal himself recommends light spine taps as a testing procedure.

Unfair insults don't promote friendly and informed discussion.
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Look at this member's responses, to what were reasonable questions about his story. I don't think this guy came here for "friendly and informed discussion". I think he wanted to post some pics of a knife damaged (with absolutely zero actual proof as to how it happened), and when people responded in a way he didn't anticipate or desire, he got spun up. You don't see what OP is saying as bashing Spyderco? I agree, this is high praise right here:

rkgp2112 said:
to make knife with such an awful construction, that no one dare to call a lock?
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I mean, right?
 
HAHA! This is the funniest response yet. Good one Quiet. I can picture (somebody) using the serations as the "jimping" to accomplish said task.

Quiet said:
I know!!!!! Then, and this is the worst, the WORST. Their jimping guy? HE PUT JIMPING ON BOTH SIDES'A THA BLADE!!! WHO DOES THAT!!!!!
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When you need to cut up your steak, do you go and get a hammer? If your drain gets clogged, do you clear it with a shotgun? No? Then why would you use a folding knife to try and bust up frozen food?
 
Twindog said:
I don't see this as bashing Spyderco. Sal himself recommends light spine taps as a testing procedure.
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Light spine taps to make sure the lock doesn't slip, sure, but light spine taps don't cause metal to deform...
 
Czechmate said:
There's a right way and a wrong way to beat your meat...

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Reminds me of a restaurant in Irving, TX back in the 80's their slogan was "You may beat our prices, but you can't beat our meat!"
 
I've never really understood the "spine whack" concept. I've have never in my life had to use the spine of a folding knife to whack something. In my mind, that just isn't an option. And if for some reason i did need to, I think it would make more since to use it closed. I don't make enough money to risk breaking a knife by using it as a hammer.
That lock bar is a thin piece of hardened steel. Spine whacks are just asking for trouble
 
Twindog said:
Sure, the spine whacks could have been harder than described. The knife could have been purposely broken with tools. But why would we assume that the OP is not describing what happened accurately? There has to be a reason to doubt his story, and there is no reason. I've shattered a knife blade into three pieces using just hand pressure. Things happen. No company can produce perfect products day after day after day. Some flaws will slip through. That's understandable.

I don't see this as bashing Spyderco. Sal himself recommends light spine taps as a testing procedure.

Unfair insults don't promote friendly and informed discussion.
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You seem to be missing the point. The OP says a guy in a Russian forum uses a folding knife in a manner which it was not designed for, then complains about the knife's quality. We really don't know the extent of what the knife was put through, but it's safe to assume that if he was willing to whack away at frozen food packages with the back of the blade, then he's likely done that sort of thing with his knife before. The damage could have already been done before he used it on the packages.

Bottom line, he shouldn't have been complaining about damage if he's been whacking at stuff with the back of a folding knife. It's like using the tip of a fountain pen to pry the tabs off a cans of soda, then complaining that the pen is worthless because it won't write anymore.
 
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