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My van doesn't have a trunk either. I got a huge duffel bag and put everything in it. I figure it's too heavy to shift much.

I would not bet on that. F=MA. Force = Mass x Acceleration. And the magnitude of Force = M x |Acceleration|. In a car accident, the magnitude of acceleration can be huge. You can go from 65MPH to zero in a very small fraction of a second resulting in huge |acceleration|. And that results in huge force, forces that twist heavy metal car frames like pipe cleaners. If your duffel bag truly is so heavy that you're not worried about it moving under normal circumstances, then mass will be quite high leading to even higher force.

And in a roll-over accident -- like mine -- your bag will certainly become airborne and, in fact, the whole bag may clobber you.

If you don't want to be hit in the head with it, then either bolt it down (seriously) or put it in the trunk.

If you have no trunk, then get a roof box or some such thing. If you have a pickup truck, then get a locking, water-tight bed tool box and have that bolted in.

I speak from experience on this. I survived a roll-over accident in which the car rolled over three times. My seatbelt and the automatic belt tensioner that fired automatically held me safely in my seat. But I found a Benchmade 970 which had been in my glove box locked open and impaled into the back seat. It could very easily have been impaled into me. My brieface which had been on the floor in the back seat behind the driver's seat opened and spilled its contents including an ASP collapable batton into the air around me. Every compartment, the glove box, the arm rest, the map pockets, the ashtray, opened and spilled its contents into the air around me. And this led me to confect my simple rule which I have preached ever since: If you don't want to be hit in the head with it, then either bolt it down (seriously) or put it in the trunk.

Again, a lot of people will say, "I don't have to worry about this. I'm a good driver. I've never had an accident." Well, I hit ice and there was just nothing I could do about it. But, even if you're the world's best driver, think about all the other crazy drivers out there like the man driving the giant SUV who tried to side-swipe me while changing lanes the other day. Fortunately, when I laid on my horn, he finally saw me and swerved back into his own lane. He was talking on his cell phone, of course. If you're not worried about your own driving, worry about everyone else.

How pedantic am I about this? This evening, as I left a church pot luck dinnner carrying the empty generic-tupperware-equivalent plastic container that I had brought my contribution in, I put that container into the trunk since, upon consideration, I decided that I wouldn't want to get hit in the head with it.
 
After reading your post, Gollnick, I have resolved to get my father a toolbox for his pickup this Christmas. He needs one, and it may well save his life, what with all the mag lites and Snap-On tools he keeps in there. I'll just have to convince him to bolt the thing down.

Thank you.
 
I can probably figure some way to anchor the duffel bag down if I think about it. I'm sure having that loose in the van is better than having a lot of steel tools flying around loose, but I'd rather not have anything flying around at all....
 
Cougar think of it this way. I have seen a lot of accidents and it amazes me that a 300 lb person can be launched through a windshield and land 50' away from the vehicle. If that is possible think about how hard your duffel bag can be launched. Me I know what can happen and I still have crap all over my truck. I hope my luck hold out.
 
it's not that much safer in the trunk... especially if your seats fold down to open to it
 
I can probably figure some way to anchor the duffel bag down if I think about it. I'm sure having that loose in the van is better than having a lot of steel tools flying around loose, but I'd rather not have anything flying around at all....

Not sure about the type of van you have, but I used to have a bare-bones work van. There were plenty of tie points. I laced mine with climbing webbing to catch anything that might fly to the front in an accident.
 
it's not that much safer in the trunk... especially if your seats fold down to open to it

There are actually federal standards for the folding seats to stop cargo from coming through in an accident. But, there are no standards for glove boxes or arm rests much less stuff just left loose.
 
i'm not sure what year that started, but the crash tests i've seen were pretty ugly... it's been a few years though. things like tool boxes were not really even slowed down by the folding seats

this was in more of a head-on type crash than a roll-over though. either way, if you are worried, i'd be strapping that kinda stuff down
 
Is there a reasonably good way to secure a BOB behind the seat of a pick up? Preferably one that does not involve drilling through the cab.
 
I love this and the little $12 crowbar they have. They make much more sense than buying a folding knife and using it to pry open boxes.
 
I love this and the little $12 crowbar they have. They make much more sense than buying a folding knife and using it to pry open boxes.

Hey Spark.... why are you hijacking this thread about car safety to talk about.... oh yeah, I guess that is what we were talking about at first....


ALL. PLEASE STOP POSTING REFERENCES TO COUNTYCOMM! EVERY TIME I LOOK UP SOME 12$ GOODY I WIND UP SPENDING 300$ THERE! :D
 
Got mine in the mail today , ordered it yesterday ! :eek:

That and a firesteel and a tiny little crobar.

Kudos to CountyComm for ridiculously fast service !! and during Christmas to boot. :D:):thumbup:
 
I got mine a few weeks ago. I'm very impressed with how solid and thick it feels.
Great product :thumbup:

Does anyone know of a site with a tutorial on how to wrap it like they show on the site? I have the paracord, but can't figure out how to do it.
 
I got mine a few weeks ago. I'm very impressed with how solid and thick it feels.
Great product :thumbup:

Does anyone know of a site with a tutorial on how to wrap it like they show on the site? I have the paracord, but can't figure out how to do it.

I did mine and it was real easy , just look at the pics close and try to mimic them , there are more than enough holes to run the cord thru.

I'm also sharpening the edges on mine , I too am impressed with this great , low cost tool. :thumbup:
 
seems perfect for bashing zombie skulls in- or using it to pry something instead of that Buck 110 on your belt.
 
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