Recommendation? Selling and payment

[Nicolas.Radlauer]

Hi fellas! I think that only here I can get the correct advices because this is the biggest forum for knives. During past weeks, I`ve tried to sell some Benchmade ( BM51, BM62 eg) knives and I was in the same problem. Payment and delivery. Never found a decent way for me and for buyers to finish any deal. 99% of possible buyers wants to pay with Paypal, I don`t want to make a blind sale ( without seller protection ). Everyone wants to buy interesting knives, no one don`t wants to "fly and buy" , everyone expect Paypal payment. Can I have 5 short questions for you?

1. Whats happening if I sell with Paypal, buyer claim a "non received item" ? I lose the knife and money for sale? Even if he receive the package and claim any reason "non received item" , "empty box" , "item it`s broken" eg
2. This is the reason for why most of buyers insist just on Paypal ? Because seller will never open a dispute against him ? What`s happening also with the buyer? Will receive the same treatment from Paypal ?
3. Because we speak about balisongs , the Paypal TOS it`s clear. "No transaction for bali under their services". Both seller and buyer accounts will be frozen? or just the seller account? I still don`t get it why buyers insist so much on Paypal
4. Because I am an european seller ( don`t worry, in my country everything its allowed to buy, sell, carry on in public. from fixed blade to automatic), international delivery it`s considered an import? it`s my duty to be carreful on the US laws regarding automatic and balisong legislation? or it`s just buyer responsability ?
5. Some buyers asked me to disassemble the knives and to ship like parts. Why? To much troubles if the knives come in one part?

Maybe my post will be reading from other european seller. How you procced with international transactions?

 

[Moe1]

PayPal is the easiest way to deal. The buyer and seller get the same protection if one of the parties does not hold up there end of the deal. If you have good standing with Paypal they will side with you if the tracking says the package got there. A buyer that has bad standing will not be able to win a claim against the seller with good standing. I've sold and bought thousands of knives in the US and hundreds in Europe without issues. A handful of people have tried to scam for sure but PayPal and even eBay have always sided with me in cases where I was both the buyer and seller. The balisongs are a sensitive area with PayPal so just don't make mention of "bali-song" on their. As long as payment is via PayPal goods and services, you will get that buyer and seller protection. Hell, I've sent payment via PayPal goods and services and don't mention what the good or service is. That's the beauty of PayPal, it's a very secure way to transact.
Good luck,
Moe

 

[Nicolas.Radlauer]

Maurizio, like I told you on the other forum where we discussed for the 42`s . I try to have legal and safe ways to close any transaction and not to play games with the laws. Maybe you wants to do that, not me. Remeber what you proposed me in private messages. "I don't mind paying that but on the item description, can you please put down "Benchmade folding tools". And a lesser value, like $250 total. " .
Payment protection mean when you are correct with the laws and payment gateway. The seller must lie paypal, and then expect protection. Starting with the left foot? Does the buyer agree when he sends the money to write exactly what he buys in the description of the transaction on Paypal? The best way to make a sale is face to face. But we can't always do it.

 

[PirateSeulb]

There is a risk though if you are shipping something like a Balisong to the US where it might not arrive to due being caught by customs and you would be out even with the protections from my understanding. I would either ship only to places where it wont be an issue or require some payment method that lets them accept the risk of the package being intercepted. You could alternatively ship disassembled in multiple shipments but this will cost more and there is still a chance of issues as I am not sure that parts for such knives are allowed.

The root problem is that the item is considered illegal in the US and technically not covered by PayPal protection and in fact is an item that they explicitly don't allow their service for the buying or selling of from the sounds of it. My knowledge on Balisong knives is limited as they don't appeal to me.