Serious: How Many Mags Per Rifle?

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When things used to get tense, Rusty, 45/70, T1panie and others would run to the local store or net and buy more hi capacity magazines for various rifles.

I myself have succumbed to waves of fear and purchased multi cap mags.....in fact; I own some hi cap mags for firearms I no longer own!!!!!

What is a practical, 'tactical', number of magazines for your civil unrest Zombies are starting to move in the Hold, Rifle?





munk
 
I need to find a good buy on AR 30 rd mags again. They are creeping up in
price around here, regularly at shows for over 15 each. 6 mags for 2 AR's isnt quite enough.

DaaddyDett
 
Well, I'll be real honest. I reckon I'm not nearly as tactical as I once was. Why,
I think now my first choice in 'bout any emergency would be the sporterized 1903 I have, and mebbe 60 rounds of ammo. No biggy.

OTOH, the last full-on tactical black rifle I bought, I purchased 25 mint 20-rd mags, plus 10 beaters.

John
 
45/70 and I posted threads on this at the same time.

but to whit:


Paranoia seems to be a infinite state. Rusty had back up blades for back up blades.
One thing is certain; you are never going to have all the mags and ammo that would make you feel 'secure'. That's what we're really talking about; there is both a practical answer to this thread and a psychological one. But if one had enough extra mags, so that friends and co-horts could pocket a few as the Clan moved, then I suppose the answer is to have more mags than you can practically carry but not 500. In other words, stuff yourself full and move out.



munk
 
I used to be in that mindset when I was a kid. I got about 10 or 15 M1 carbine mags.

Nowdays it's more of a convenience thing. Most of the rifles I have are not high capacity but I do have 5 magazines for my Ruger Mark 1 .22 and 5 for my CZ 52. Usually unless I'm shooting with somebody else I only shoot say 20 to 50 rounds at a time so that's about how much capacity I get.
 
munk said:
Paranoia seems to be a infinite state. Rusty had back up blades for back up blades.
munk
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Ironic (to me) was Rusty always seemed so prepared for the hoards to come in, yet he apparently he was done in by some sort of a medical condition he totally ignored. Talk about straining out the gnat and swallowing the camel:eek:
 
One reason I like bolt actions is that they normally don't require detactable magazines to function.

I have 2 mags for my Swiss 1911, plus several chargers to reload the mag quickly. The mag noramlly stays in the gun.

I like my model 94 for the same reason, its mag is self contained. I tend to think more about being mobile, as opposed to holing up someshere. Should prepare for both, i guess.

John,
what kind of sights does your '03 have? I am thinking of going the '03 route, when and if i ever buy from the CMP. probably groundless worries, but i worry about the en bloc clips for the garand, as well as the mechanism needing more care over time.

Take care,

Tom
 
I am not that big a fan of "tactical" even though I have several high cap mags laying around...I am not overly worried about the advancing hordes or anything, I just hate loading mags at the range..

My normal HD gun is a Mossy 590 loaded with buckshot and 4 slugs in the speedfeed stock...backing that up is my 18" chainsaw...

Ruger .357mag revovler...3 speedloaders

10-22....12 30round mags

Romy ak I am building...10 30round mags

When I get it

Springy xd9/40...5 high caps

Govt 1911...5-6 mags
 
During the fun years of 1965-67 I carried 300 rounds in Rifle mags and 4-13 round mags of 9mm. I also caried 300-400 rifle loose. dozen or so M-26 and a couple of Claymores, with trip devices. Keeping fully loaded mags can weaken springs and cause feed issues at low capacity plus it is easer to keep loose ammo cleaner and easier to inspect.
IMVHO.
My current long guns are lever in 22 Mag and 17 HMR 100 rounds will fit in you levi pocket.
My pistols are 380, 357 SIG, 40 SW, 7.62X25 and 22 Mag, 4 mags for each, 300 loose of each. 380, 357 SIG, 40 SW are all Air Marshall rounds.
OH, I have a Springfiield Armory M-6 Scout 22 Mag/410 also. And a 18" O/U 12 1st barrel rubber pellets, second not so forgiving.

Dick
 
munk said:
45/70 and I posted threads on this at the same time.

but to whit:


Paranoia seems to be a infinite state. Rusty had back up blades for back up blades.
One thing is certain; you are never going to have all the mags and ammo that would make you feel 'secure'. That's what we're really talking about; there is both a practical answer to this thread and a psychological one. But if one had enough extra mags, so that friends and co-horts could pocket a few as the Clan moved, then I suppose the answer is to have more mags than you can practically carry but not 500. In other words, stuff yourself full and move out.





munk
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I think the popular consensus over a temporary emergency is to dig in instead of move out . There is no place you know better than where you are now . I have more than one instructor tell me that carrying at least three blades is a minimum for some situations . I sometimes carry two though that is rare . Unfortunately everything I own has integral mags though I have no excuse for the wheelgun . I guess I should have a couple of speedloaders for it . Personally I think in the long run that preparing oneself will control paranoia and allow good sense to reign . I do think that every good thinking man should have a rifle with multi mags . Unfortunately all I have is a lee handloader for the levergun . Not exactly in the high rate of fire category am I ? I personally can,t envision anything where multiple mags would be needed . Then again I live in a place where my Marlin 30-30 is proabably the big boy for blocks around me . I am sure there are a few New Orleans citizens who were glad they were armed . It wasn,t exactly a situation where you could dig in either .
 
Keep the good mags and either fix or get rid of the bad ones. I have recently gotten rid of a bunch of no-name 1911 mags and replaced them with Wilson Combat Stainless 8rd mags.

If the SHTF I'd probably grab my 30-06 and at least the 40rnds I have loaded for it, I can place them almost on top of each other at 100 yards. If I need more than that I have the 100 rounds of S. Korean ball ammo I promised myself I would never put through this rifle (I love the rifle too much). But come on, after the first 1-2 rounds from my '06 either they are going to be taking cover or I am in really deep poo.

Closer in work I have my 12ga and my SKS. As well as my 1911 and Glock 20 (read: 10mm)... but all those are for serious domestic affairs.
 
Paranoia is a state of mind just like hunger, lust, aracnaphobia, etc, etc. If you have a case of potatoe chips, a gross of condoms, a very large flyswatter, 42 knives, 23 firearms, 7,784 rounds of ammo, you should be prepared for whichever personality happens to be in control when an event happens.
No one can be completely prepared physically for every situation that might occur, you can, however be prepared mentally for most situations
I spent several days in a Panama jungle that only made it impossible to put anything in a fatigue pocket. however there may come a time that the things I learned will save mine or someone elses life.
In closing, don't obsese over what could happen just have a plan.

IMHO:jerkit:

Dick
 
"In closing, don't obsess over what could happen just have a plan."

In college after dating a girl for 4 months the girl found out that I had more than one form of protection in my nightstand. She asked if 6 speed loaders was really required, if I had some sort of paranoia or something. I told her that with their lead ballast they held the box of condoms in place with authority.

She found that cunning; the plan worked.:thumbup:
 
munk said:
When things used to get tense, Rusty, 45/70, T1panie and others would run to the local store or net and buy more hi capacity magazines for various rifles.

I myself have succumbed to waves of fear and purchased multi cap mags.....in fact; I own some hi cap mags for firearms I no longer own!!!!!

What is a practical, 'tactical', number of magazines for your civil unrest Zombies are starting to move in the Hold, Rifle?

Hi Munk:

What a Loaded question.

I say it would depend upon the size of the conflict you would be involved in. How many rounds can your weapon dependably dispense before fouling or breaking an extractor?

If you are going to a range it doesn't matter. You have plenty of time.

A war time battle means you can't have enough. But if you were alone you would be over run anyhow. So maybe you need just enough magazines to hold out until something big lands on you or you are over run.

If you need to retreat and fight a survival/gorilla scenario, how much weight can you carry?

Fun question since we never really know what's comimg.
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Getting a Kel-Tec SU-16 soon,uses AR-15 mags I'd say four mags is all you need....I'll prob get eight 30rd's though-why? 'cos I can! :D

My Glock 21 has three...need one more,but I can now buy 13rd at sane prices may opt for those insted.

In a fight?..........
I'll go for my sword and knife first! :thumbup: :D
 
Short answer: it depends.

Long answer: it depends.

Are the mags still being made? How many rounds do each hold? Are large amounts of magazines strictly necessary? (Can an installed magazine be loaded by stripper clips through the receiver?) How long do the magazines last? How much do they cost?

I have a lot of AR-15 magazines laying around; they're cheap, and they break easily. I have fewer M-14 magazines and I really only use one or two of them anyway, as they last pretty much forever and with a bit of practice loading through the receiver you only need one...most of them are still in the wrappers. I have a lot of AK magazines because they occasionally don't work correctly and if they were any less expensive, they'd be free. Lots of Glock mags but most are post-pre-ban, with post-post-ban high caps replacing them as funds permit. (Which hurts, as these last pretty much forever as well.)

Pistols and rifles that aren't "serious" get the bare minimum: 1 or 2 mags for a rifle, 2 or 3 for a pistol. CCW pistols get at least 3 mags that are proven to function properly.

The Saiga-12's magazines are expensive but as they only hold 5 rounds a piece, I have eight. No more are planned unless 8-rounders become more widely available. The exteriors pick up wear and tear quickly but they seem to be hanging on, and they passed the Rishar Stomp Test. They always feed properly, not a small accomplishment in itself when the rounds being fed are 2 3/4" long, made of plastic, flat on the front, and rimmed. Perhaps the price isn't that unreasonable after all.

4 factory ten-rounders for the 10/22 with no more planned. They last forever with regular maintenance and if one somehow breaks, I can buy another one at Walmart. The only reason that I have as many as I do is to reduce the time between firing strings.

Lots of FAL mags, as Tapco was pretty much giving them away a while back. Most were scratch-and-dent specials and not all of the rejects have been culled yet; the FAL doesn't see much use due to the company it keeps.

I never thought to purchase any 20-rounders for the RishAR-15, but I recently had some experience with them at work and I like them. I'll probably wind up getting a few.
 
Hmmm, never thought about it.

where do i stick the magazine in a .58 springfield?
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p.s. - 3 rounds a minute broke the french imperial guard at waterloo & the brits weren't even using rifles, this 'un will still do for you at 600 yds. & is why great granpappy lost at gettysburg. gramps used to say if y'all cain't shoot, don't matter how many bullets you got. if you can, it only takes one.
 
My main battle rifle, my Romy AK, has 12 high cap magizines for it. Six 30 rounders, four 40 rounders, and two 75 round drums. When it comes to tactical/practical, the 30rders and one drum would likely be my payload. The 40rd mags are awkward to use when prone or supported due to their length, and the drums are kind of a pain to get out of the pouches. So for me, in full yet tactical/practical gear, it would be my AK with drum loaded, three 30rd mags in chest rig, three more 30rd mags in pouch on one side of my hip, and personal khukuri on my other.

My Glock sidearm has four mags, two 10rd ones that came with it, and two 15 rounders (usually loaded with no more than 14). If I had the desire to pack it too, it would be loaded with a 10rd mag and the two 15rders would riding in my Fobus mag holder.

Bob
 
When I used to go deer hunting I had a belt that went around my waist full of rounds.

My friend, Roscoe, used to laugh at me. He began the season with two rounds, max. In Georgia there is a two deer limit. After he bagged one deer, he only carried one round.

After killing his second deer, he was empty and dragging it back to his truck when he encountered a cougar.

Now he carries three rounds at the beginning of the season...........

Gotta get back to Jo Dark in Perfect Dark Zero (XBox 360 game). She carries a minimum of 200 rounds for each of her three guns. So there!:rolleyes: :cool: :p :yawn:
 
Though I hope I never have to use my "BUG OUT" gun for any real "BUG OUT" situation, I keep 12 thirty round magazines for my Arsenal Inc. SA M7 rifle. It's a 7.62x39 caliber semi auto rifle based on the AK-47 design (forged and milled receiver).

That's probably 6 magazines too many, but what the heck ;)
 
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