Seriously considering Benchmade Bone Collector (edit2: Benchmade resolved problem)

Benchmade doesn't seem to interact much via their company forum, but I've seen people get responses through social media sometimes. You could try calling their warranty department and seeing if they'll pick up the tab for shipping both ways. If that fails you could try their Facebook, Twitter, or Youtube channel and ask them WTF.
 
Exchange the BC for a new one. My local brick and mortar store literally has around 30 of these knives and I've personally held almost every one, and all of them have been pretty much perfect. And no I'm not a BM fanboy, I actually think their QC as a whole sucks. While most of their knives have QC issues, every one of the bone collectors I've handled have been perfect, and trust me I've held many.


Try it again. I bet you'll be satisfied. I do however regret that you even have to try again, it shouldn't be that way.
 
Exchange the BC for a new one. My local brick and mortar store literally has around 30 of these knives and I've personally held almost every one, and all of them have been pretty much perfect. And no I'm not a BM fanboy, I actually think their QC as a whole sucks. While most of their knives have QC issues, every one of the bone collectors I've handled have been perfect, and trust me I've held many.


Try it again. I bet you'll be satisfied. I do however regret that you even have to try again, it shouldn't be that way.

I understand, and I believe you. That's the main reason I'm not mentioning the name of the reseller, because I don't want to cost them any sales by people thinking they shouldn't buy BC's there.

I'm going to give them a ring tomorrow and see what they can do for an exchange. I really like the knife, but if I'm paying for a Benchmade, I expect nothing but excellent quality.

If I wanted perfect, I'd be coughing up $400-500 for a Sebenza. I'm more than satisified with excellent.




The main reason I felt I needed to post this was that this knife goes far beyond, "Oops, it made it through QC." Even my fiance, who could care less about knives, and is not mechanically inclined in the slightest, was surprised by the poor quality.
 
Man that sucks about the knife.

In my review I stated that there were some issues, laser mark in the hole, uneven grinds on the edge and the blade was off center (no amount of tightening the pivot helps so alignment of scales, pivot etc must be off IMO). Every one at our dealer had these issues (5 of them), but nothing as bad as you had! That sucks because I have been very happy with the knife despite those flaws, but it should be corrected nun the less in the production process.
 
I ordered two Rake blems, one was a gift it works great. My would not fully open, so I got the lube and loosened it a wee bit ,now it flies open. I received my first crappy knife yesterday a brand new case lock that would not even open. I have about 25 of them so this is going back to the factory. If your not happy with the BC don't bash the whole company,one meth head was having a bad day.My BC is awesome. Swap it or send it back. A pain in the buttocks yea but buy a new car for $50,000 and how many times does that go back to the dealer. we are talking about $100 knives.
 
I am glad you posted. All my BM have been great but this is the place to post QC issues regardless of what make or model. You posted pics
to illustrate the problem. That's how it should be done. There is way too many 2nd hand trash talk about knives without proper pics to back up the claim. Too much bashing brands without pics makes it hard to know if it's a troll thread or a legitimate concern.
 
I have never received a knife with an obvious bend in the blade like that from any manufacturer. Its crazy to visually see that type of defect. The Benchmades i have are perfect in the fit and finish department but they are all pre-2004 production. What causes the blade to warp like that? I would send it right back for a refund. I hope you have better luck on your next acquisition. Stay sharp my friend.
 
I'll be honest. I've had about 5 Benchmades and besides the infidel that i have, none have been worth the dollars spent on them. Grind issues, blade centering issues, blade play issues, etc. The last straw was an impel that I bought. Didn't even come close to the protech runt j4 that they clearly copied.

I stay away from benchmade these days. My infidel is absolutely perfect and I had an osbourne and 707 that were pretty good too, but for the money I just don't think their qc is up to par.

I will add that I am very picky. And was unhappy with most of the Benchmades I've had, but NONE had a warped blade like the bone collector in this post. They should give you a second knife for free just to make up for this embarrassment.
 
Yes, you should see if you get better results from a replacement. I've had defects from Spyderco, Kershaw, and Benchmade; it happens sometimes with production folders.
 
I called Benchmade this morning and they sent me a new replacement knife from the factory, with this knife sight unseen. They are cross-shipping 2nd day air so I will have my new knife in time for a trip this weekend.

I'm still dissappointed in the defect knife, but I am absolutely thrilled with Benchmade's service. I didn't have to argue at all with them... the girl on the phone was very friendly with me and immediately offered to send a replacement once I asked if it was possible to cross-ship and I explained my situation.
 
Call Benchmade on this crap folks... WTH !

I'll say it myself.

Dear Benchmade , you are truly starting to really suck as a knife manufacturer
.

You are heading down the same slippery slopes companies like Gerber have gone.

Keep this up and your knives will only be sold in clamshell packages at discount stores like Walmart and bought up by the gullible that are not the slightest bit picky when it comes to buying a knife !



Seriously how many posts has there been the last year or so about Benchmade's piss-poor QC on many knives.

I could care less about fanboy stuff , or hurting someones feelings. Too many good , solid American knife companies have went to sucksville.

In closing - There is no way , no excuse for this knife to have gone out in it's condition/ Kershaw does not do this , nor does Spyderco.


Wake up Benchmade !! You ain't all that !

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Glad to hear that they'll correct the issue. I think they should pay more attention to their blades in the first place, though. For some reason, they're the one company that can't seem to get their blade grinds perfect. They're always a little asymmetrical or something like that. The rest of the knife has been fine in my experience, though.
 
you realize both spyderco and kershaw sell knives at walmart right?

Yes. And what they sell there are their very wallet friendly models.

My point was if you read BM's catalog they hype the bone collector up to be a very pretty piece worthy of more than a few coins.

I have had bad taste after bad taste with BM this past decade. I did however get a 755 for Christmas which is actually flawless ( surprise suprise !) and I actually love the knife. I also would like to see what the 760 is all about one day.
how many times has someone posted a bad experience regarding BM , I myself have had three major letdowns which soured me from them for a good four years until on a whim and ironically at Walmart I bought a Mini Pika which a lot of folks thought was terrible , mine turned out to be pretty good , so much so that I gifted it to a co-worker.On the other hand I had a almost $200 bad experience with a BM Osborne and i'm just a workin fool that doesnt have buttloads of cash to throw around.

My rambling is that so BM does not think they can do whatever they want and have their customer base sit still and take it. I will , and have taken my cash elsewhere.

I dont like to bash a knife company for the heck of it.

Tostig
 
Yes. And what they sell there are their very wallet friendly models.

My point was if you read BM's catalog they hype the bone collector up to be a very pretty piece worthy of more than a few coins.

I have had bad taste after bad taste with BM this past decade. I did however get a 755 for Christmas which is actually flawless ( surprise suprise !) and I actually love the knife. I also would like to see what the 760 is all about one day.
how many times has someone posted a bad experience regarding BM , I myself have had three major letdowns which soured me from them for a good four years until on a whim and ironically at Walmart I bought a Mini Pika which a lot of folks thought was terrible , mine turned out to be pretty good , so much so that I gifted it to a co-worker.On the other hand I had a almost $200 bad experience with a BM Osborne and i'm just a workin fool that doesnt have buttloads of cash to throw around.

My rambling is that so BM does not think they can do whatever they want and have their customer base sit still and take it. I will , and have taken my cash elsewhere.

I dont like to bash a knife company for the heck of it.

Tostig


I don't know if this will mean anything, but the girl I spoke with on the phone sounded like she was geniunely upset that I got a bad knife. She said something to the effect of "That's not how we like to operate here", but not in a canned response, CSR kind of tone. As in "We" included her and she was personally sorry that it happened.

I'm pretty good at discerning between "Oh, I'm so sorry but I don't really give a crap", and "Hey, I'm really, truly sorry". The woman I dealt with at Benchmade was the latter.

That meant a lot to me, for two reasons:

1. They didn't try to deny that they screwed up, in fact they apologized for it.

2. Immediately upon learning of the situation, they fixed it in the best way possible, as soon as possible, and without an ounce of convincing.



Based on the quality of the first knife I got, I wouldn't buy Benchmade again. Based upon the customer service I just got... I would buy benchmade for that alone. ;)
 
I love Benchmade knives! Some are perfect some needs a little adjustments... no big deal for me. The three biggest complaints with BM knives seemes to be..
1. Not sharp enough
2. Blade not centered.
3. Pivot screw gets loose and creates bladeplay.

1. Sharpness is quite subjective. What´s sharp for me may not be sharp for you (if you want to slize toiletpaper).
2. As long as it don´t touch anything I don´t mind. If it´s horrible bent (like yours) just return it.
3. Maybe that´s the price for being able to adjust opening manually. Some of my BM has the loose pivot screw and I have to fix it with teflon tape and some has been perfect from the beginning. I´ll rather have it this way than not be able to adjust it myself.

I think much of this is because of online shopping. You´ll place an order and hope for the best. If you buy it at a regular store much of this wouldn´t happen. If you handle the knife before buying it you wouldn´t get lemons like this.
 
Although Benchmade addressed this problem in a timely and satisfactory fashion, as they should have, the real issue needs to be addressed. They need to stop these defective knives from leaving the factory before their reputation gets more tarnished.
 
I love Benchmade knives! Some are perfect some needs a little adjustments... no big deal for me. The three biggest complaints with BM knives seemes to be..
1. Not sharp enough
2. Blade not centered.
3. Pivot screw gets loose and creates bladeplay.

1. Sharpness is quite subjective. What´s sharp for me may not be sharp for you (if you want to slize toiletpaper).
2. As long as it don´t touch anything I don´t mind. If it´s horrible bent (like yours) just return it.
3. Maybe that´s the price for being able to adjust opening manually. Some of my BM has the loose pivot screw and I have to fix it with teflon tape and some has been perfect from the beginning. I´ll rather have it this way than not be able to adjust it myself.

I think much of this is because of online shopping. You´ll place an order and hope for the best. If you buy it at a regular store much of this wouldn´t happen. If you handle the knife before buying it you wouldn´t get lemons like this.

I'll number my responses to your points:

1. I agree. For instance, this Bone Collector came less sharp than the $16 Kershaw Chill I just bought, but I know from personal experience that it is a cinch to get a bleeding edge on Kershaw's lower end steels. Even a novice sharpener can put a respectable edge on them. Getting D2 even moderately sharp is a feat in itself, but you're rewarded with a tough as nails edge once you do get it. That said, this Benchmade was well above what I would consider acceptable... it was very sharp, just not ridiculously sharp.

2. I personally don't care if the blade is 100% perfectly centered. I do care if it has an effect on operation. The only place I am notoriously picky is in the bevel, and this knife had a superb bevel, very even and good angle on both sides.

3. I like an easy to adjust pivot. It's something that you must constantly work on any knife to account for wear. That said, a loose pivot is easily remedied with blue loctite.

Although Benchmade addressed this problem in a timely and satisfactory fashion, as they should have, the real issue needs to be addressed. They need to stop these defective knives from leaving the factory before their reputation gets more tarnished.

I completely agree.

To be fair, I feel that perhaps the advent of online sales may be at fault. A lot of people are buying a lot of knives that they have never seen in person, and once the knife gets there and is a hassle to return, they are more likely to just settle and keep it.

If one was purchasing in a store, they would be forced to see the knife first, and would be much less likely to accept a substandard knife. If knife sales were only allowed in person (much like guns, not that I would want that), then people would be forced to inspect the item upon purchase and would immediately have an oppurtunity to reject with little inconvenience.

I feel that there are a lot of knives being sold in all brands, that never would have cut the mustard if the sales were strictly brick and mortar. Because of this, I feel that the knife companies are getting a falsified view of just how acceptable their overall quality standard is.

If Benchmade was having piles of knives come back from every reseller, and losing their arses money-wise, trust me, they would have this QC problem fixed a LONG time ago. Instead, people are taking knives that they shouldn't, and Benchmade has a false view of its own quality.

For instance, if this knife that I bought (which is far beyond unacceptable), was purchased by a right hander, it might never have even made its way back to Benchmade.



This may be an unpopular statement, but the drop of quality in any given brand is as much the customer's fault as it is the company's. If the customer doesn't speak up, then the company will just assume that they are doing good enough, even if they aren't.
 
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